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		<title>By: Jim McDermott</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/religious_media_impact/#comment-8217</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil, I&#039;m not sure which dreamworld you are in, but how long can you put a light in the middle of a mudfight, and expect that light to shine very bright? Here is the problem with what you propose: in order to be a part of the &quot;secular&quot; side of media, you will eventually have to do some assignment that is mutually exclusive with your faith. When you refuse to do it--you are fired. If you do compromise, you lose your witness. So how does a Christian make movies in Hollywood? How does a Christian become a CNN reporter? How does a Christian sing REAL Christian music (not the ambiguous stuff a lot of artists try to pass off as Christian) and get a contract with Sony? Most likely, the only way is to do some very un-Christian things and who has really beem influenced?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you are asking me to compromise my convictions so that I can reach a bigger, less religious audience, I&#039;ll pass. If we could just get Christians to do what the Bible says, we could easily change this world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I&#8217;m not sure which dreamworld you are in, but how long can you put a light in the middle of a mudfight, and expect that light to shine very bright? Here is the problem with what you propose: in order to be a part of the &#8220;secular&#8221; side of media, you will eventually have to do some assignment that is mutually exclusive with your faith. When you refuse to do it&#8211;you are fired. If you do compromise, you lose your witness. So how does a Christian make movies in Hollywood? How does a Christian become a CNN reporter? How does a Christian sing REAL Christian music (not the ambiguous stuff a lot of artists try to pass off as Christian) and get a contract with Sony? Most likely, the only way is to do some very un-Christian things and who has really beem influenced?</p>
<p>If you are asking me to compromise my convictions so that I can reach a bigger, less religious audience, I&#8217;ll pass. If we could just get Christians to do what the Bible says, we could easily change this world.</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/religious_media_impact/#comment-8218</link>
		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great point! A friend and I were recently talking about this topic. In many places such as the UK, &quot;Christian&quot; artists create their music and are promoted, marketed and played on the radio as artists, right along with &quot;secular&quot; artists. The dichotomy of secular vs christian markets is not an issue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But in the USA there is a completely separate industry called &quot;Christian Music&quot; with Christian artists, labels, etc. My friend remarked: &quot;We have successfully kept the world from hearing our message.&quot; You are right that we need to engage the world. We can be there as salt and light. As my dad has always said, &quot;YOU are the message.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point! A friend and I were recently talking about this topic. In many places such as the UK, &#8220;Christian&#8221; artists create their music and are promoted, marketed and played on the radio as artists, right along with &#8220;secular&#8221; artists. The dichotomy of secular vs christian markets is not an issue.</p>
<p>But in the USA there is a completely separate industry called &#8220;Christian Music&#8221; with Christian artists, labels, etc. My friend remarked: &#8220;We have successfully kept the world from hearing our message.&#8221; You are right that we need to engage the world. We can be there as salt and light. As my dad has always said, &#8220;YOU are the message.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: cv</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/religious_media_impact/#comment-8219</link>
		<dc:creator>cv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree. I bet I know which audience would force me further out of my comfort zone :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I bet I know which audience would force me further out of my comfort zone :-)</p>
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		<title>By: al valdez</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/religious_media_impact/#comment-8220</link>
		<dc:creator>al valdez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great post.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: sueb</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/religious_media_impact/#comment-8221</link>
		<dc:creator>sueb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;If you are asking me to compromise my convictions so that I can reach a bigger, less religious audience, I&#039;ll pass. If we could just get Christians to do what the Bible says, we could easily change this world.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This seems like a cop-out to me. We &lt;em&gt;must&lt;/em&gt; reach the bigger, &quot;less religious&quot; audience. That &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; what the Bible says.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As always, Jesus is our example, and he spent most of his time with the larger. less-religious audience including sinners, adulterers, liars, thiefs, etc.... And He did it without compromise. Daniel would be another good example. He lived his faith without compromise and changed the heart of a King! He was not afraid of the consequences of living out his faith in front of the world...and God made a way for him to have great influence. I believe the same is true for us. It&#039;s fear that intimidates us and keeps us from stepping out and reaching out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, this same fear can cause us to limit our vision to a certain churched audience, and stay where it&#039;s &quot;safe.&quot; This makes for a lot of big fish in a somewhat small pond...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If you are asking me to compromise my convictions so that I can reach a bigger, less religious audience, I&#8217;ll pass. If we could just get Christians to do what the Bible says, we could easily change this world.</em></p>
<p>This seems like a cop-out to me. We <em>must</em> reach the bigger, &#8220;less religious&#8221; audience. That <em>is</em> what the Bible says.</p>
<p>As always, Jesus is our example, and he spent most of his time with the larger. less-religious audience including sinners, adulterers, liars, thiefs, etc&#8230;. And He did it without compromise. Daniel would be another good example. He lived his faith without compromise and changed the heart of a King! He was not afraid of the consequences of living out his faith in front of the world&#8230;and God made a way for him to have great influence. I believe the same is true for us. It&#8217;s fear that intimidates us and keeps us from stepping out and reaching out.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this same fear can cause us to limit our vision to a certain churched audience, and stay where it&#8217;s &#8220;safe.&#8221; This makes for a lot of big fish in a somewhat small pond&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jim - you should consider becoming Amish.&#160;&#160; :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim &#8211; you should consider becoming Amish.&nbsp;&nbsp; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/religious_media_impact/#comment-8223</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for this post. It is a good reminder while working away in the industry and often losing sight of why I am going down this path. (It&#039;s tough sometimes!) In my place of work, while I don&#039;t (yet) have a large influence on content, one thing I have noticed is that I have had a unique opportunity to touch individuals&#039; lives and be challenged and encouraged by them, as well, even though they aren&#039;t believers. If I stayed out of the mainstream, secular industry, I wouldn&#039;t have this opportunity to know them and be a light here, each and every day.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for you, Jim, I appreciate your thoughts and I know there have been a number of celebrities who, while professing to be Christians, have unfortunately been poor examples of sticking to religious conviction. Still, there are numerous stories of believers who have a major impact on people&#039;s lives by using their talent to glorify God in so-called &quot;secular&quot; work. For example, my co-worker was just playing Switchfoot at her desk yesterday. It made me smile, because I know that while many of their lyrics do not have direct Christian content, they do sing songs of upright content, which is a big change compared to much of what she listens to. It also opens her up to listening to &quot;similar artists&quot; on music websites, and wouldn&#039;t you know...she was playing outright Christian music another day. And then comes my opportunity to talk to her about it...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>Thank you for this post. It is a good reminder while working away in the industry and often losing sight of why I am going down this path. (It&#8217;s tough sometimes!) In my place of work, while I don&#8217;t (yet) have a large influence on content, one thing I have noticed is that I have had a unique opportunity to touch individuals&#8217; lives and be challenged and encouraged by them, as well, even though they aren&#8217;t believers. If I stayed out of the mainstream, secular industry, I wouldn&#8217;t have this opportunity to know them and be a light here, each and every day.</p>
<p>As for you, Jim, I appreciate your thoughts and I know there have been a number of celebrities who, while professing to be Christians, have unfortunately been poor examples of sticking to religious conviction. Still, there are numerous stories of believers who have a major impact on people&#8217;s lives by using their talent to glorify God in so-called &#8220;secular&#8221; work. For example, my co-worker was just playing Switchfoot at her desk yesterday. It made me smile, because I know that while many of their lyrics do not have direct Christian content, they do sing songs of upright content, which is a big change compared to much of what she listens to. It also opens her up to listening to &#8220;similar artists&#8221; on music websites, and wouldn&#8217;t you know&#8230;she was playing outright Christian music another day. And then comes my opportunity to talk to her about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Monika</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/religious_media_impact/#comment-8224</link>
		<dc:creator>Monika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can we adopt you?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we adopt you?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/religious_media_impact/#comment-8225</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m happy to be a poster child...&#160; :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to be a poster child&#8230;&nbsp; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/religious_media_impact/#comment-8226</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jim, Not all christians who create create christian content.&#160; It&#039;s not that worship artists will be on Sony anytime soon, but rather why are their singer-songwriters writing worship songs? They could be touring as a singer-songwriter... Not all secular media companies are inherently evil (certainly not more so than secular anything-else companies).&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Conservative christians hold creative industries as somehow potentially more evil than any other.. but this is not the case.&#160; Dole (the fruit people) just got busted for paying off rebel groups in S.America so they could keep their fruit trees.&#160; Proctor &amp; Gamble (the soap people) have probably wrecked as many streams and caused cancer.. they&#039;ve been peddling cleaning chemicals for a long time.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most industries have a dominant culture, lots of brand strategists were college athletes, lots of pharmaceuticlal reps were cheerleaders, lots of arts administrators were music majors; that&#039;s the level of the conflict in hollywood or rock n roll, lots of entertainment people don&#039;t necessarilly embody &quot;christian values.&quot;&#160;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The christian entertainment industry has more to do with exploiting an artists&#039; credibility, and opening a market with barriers to entry, than necessarily edifying the church, or not &quot;sinning&quot; while going to work.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What Phil is advocating, is not a Christian Arts renaissance, not kids going to hollywood and making christian movies, or telling christian stories, or writing christian songs, or reporting christian news; but going to hollywood and making movies, telling stories, writing songs, and reporting news. Embodying Christ in the workplace and relationships, rather than in the marketplace.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, Not all christians who create create christian content.&nbsp; It&#8217;s not that worship artists will be on Sony anytime soon, but rather why are their singer-songwriters writing worship songs? They could be touring as a singer-songwriter&#8230; Not all secular media companies are inherently evil (certainly not more so than secular anything-else companies).&nbsp;</p>
<p>Conservative christians hold creative industries as somehow potentially more evil than any other.. but this is not the case.&nbsp; Dole (the fruit people) just got busted for paying off rebel groups in S.America so they could keep their fruit trees.&nbsp; Proctor &amp; Gamble (the soap people) have probably wrecked as many streams and caused cancer.. they&#8217;ve been peddling cleaning chemicals for a long time.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Most industries have a dominant culture, lots of brand strategists were college athletes, lots of pharmaceuticlal reps were cheerleaders, lots of arts administrators were music majors; that&#8217;s the level of the conflict in hollywood or rock n roll, lots of entertainment people don&#8217;t necessarilly embody &#8220;christian values.&#8221;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>The christian entertainment industry has more to do with exploiting an artists&#8217; credibility, and opening a market with barriers to entry, than necessarily edifying the church, or not &#8220;sinning&#8221; while going to work.&nbsp;</p>
<p>What Phil is advocating, is not a Christian Arts renaissance, not kids going to hollywood and making christian movies, or telling christian stories, or writing christian songs, or reporting christian news; but going to hollywood and making movies, telling stories, writing songs, and reporting news. Embodying Christ in the workplace and relationships, rather than in the marketplace.</p>
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