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		<title>By: Rodney Hall</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/offensive/#comment-15630</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preach!
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		<title>By: AmeriKan, aka Phil</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/offensive/#comment-4252</link>
		<dc:creator>AmeriKan, aka Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wowh, quite a post, Phil.  Ms. Sayers really sums it all up in a nut shell quite nicely with a sting.  Everything from II Tim 3:3 &amp; 3:12 to II Tim. 4:1 to II Ptr. 3:3, indicates in rather strong language that we Christians will not be well-liked especially in the last days.  Paul and Peter are basically telling us if we are doing anything that amounts to much for God, expect persecution...this computes to &quot;not popular&quot; with a low perception by the world.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As you have indicated, Peter and Paul instruct to just &quot;preach the Word&quot; but don&#039;t get weird.  &quot;Weird&quot; is a word up for discussion...people have different ideas of what weird is.  Maybe pink hair and gold furniture turns you off but maybe balding with a shortened mullet and sculpted facial hair is strange to others.(?) :-) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know what church circles you frequent but they must not fall into the places I attend regularly...if you don&#039;t have a Bible open in your lap, you&#039;re out of place.  Your last two paragraphs bring us back to what we, as the church, should be really doing.  And I have to agree with you that there are those churches who in trying to reach the culture, preach and teach a very watered down Gospel that the world doesn&#039;t often even recognize as Gospel.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Perhaps you are right.  On the one side we have a semblance of the Christian church that so compromises their message that any Gospel is lost because we don&#039;t want to offend anyone.  On the other side, I see a very strong church that is truely preaching the Word/scripture and souls are &lt;strong&gt;really getting saved.&lt;/strong&gt;  And they are making an impact on their city and community.  One such church is Victory Christian Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma.  You can go to victory.com and see the results of their &quot;labors.&quot;  They are preaching a compelling message of the &quot;greatest story every told.&quot;  There are many, many other churches doing likewise...we need more.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wowh, quite a post, Phil.  Ms. Sayers really sums it all up in a nut shell quite nicely with a sting.  Everything from II Tim 3:3 &amp; 3:12 to II Tim. 4:1 to II Ptr. 3:3, indicates in rather strong language that we Christians will not be well-liked especially in the last days.  Paul and Peter are basically telling us if we are doing anything that amounts to much for God, expect persecution&#8230;this computes to &quot;not popular&quot; with a low perception by the world.  </p>
<p>As you have indicated, Peter and Paul instruct to just &quot;preach the Word&quot; but don&#39;t get weird.  &quot;Weird&quot; is a word up for discussion&#8230;people have different ideas of what weird is.  Maybe pink hair and gold furniture turns you off but maybe balding with a shortened mullet and sculpted facial hair is strange to others.(?) :-) </p>
<p>I don&#39;t know what church circles you frequent but they must not fall into the places I attend regularly&#8230;if you don&#39;t have a Bible open in your lap, you&#39;re out of place.  Your last two paragraphs bring us back to what we, as the church, should be really doing.  And I have to agree with you that there are those churches who in trying to reach the culture, preach and teach a very watered down Gospel that the world doesn&#39;t often even recognize as Gospel.  </p>
<p>Perhaps you are right.  On the one side we have a semblance of the Christian church that so compromises their message that any Gospel is lost because we don&#39;t want to offend anyone.  On the other side, I see a very strong church that is truely preaching the Word/scripture and souls are <strong>really getting saved.</strong>  And they are making an impact on their city and community.  One such church is Victory Christian Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma.  You can go to victory.com and see the results of their &quot;labors.&quot;  They are preaching a compelling message of the &quot;greatest story every told.&quot;  There are many, many other churches doing likewise&#8230;we need more.  </p>
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		<title>By: storm</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/offensive/#comment-4253</link>
		<dc:creator>storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, I am tired of hearing people on TV talk about everything but how to get to Heaven-Thru Jesus! I finally saw a good program on TBN tonight...the creation show, that was really cool! Great job TBN in broadcasting some truth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, I am tired of hearing people on TV talk about everything but how to get to Heaven-Thru Jesus! I finally saw a good program on TBN tonight&#8230;the creation show, that was really cool! Great job TBN in broadcasting some truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Aweaver3</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/offensive/#comment-4254</link>
		<dc:creator>Aweaver3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wonder in our well intentioned desire to embrace the culture, if we’re losing the very heart of the greatest story ever told?&quot;  - You said a lot right here, Phil.  -  When John the Baptist was in prison, he sent his disciples to ask Jesus if he was The One.  John knew he was (after all he baptized him), but he was at a seriously low point in prison and desperately needed some confirmation.  Jesus&#039; response to his disciples is, &quot;Tell John what you hear and see. The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor. Blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me.&quot;  ((The Amplified says [And blessed (happy, fortunate and to be envied) is he who takes no offense at Me and finds no cause for stumbling in or through Me and is not hindered from seeing the Truth.] Matthew 11:1-6)) Jesus presented a very distinct message followed by very distinct actions - and then told those who believed in Him to spread the same message and do the same things all over the world.  Our presentation should be well put together and we should be able to relate to others.  But let us not place our faith in our polished relations.  Our current society lives and breathes by this motivation.  Jesus makes it clear that we need the power and presence of the Holy Spirit working in and through us in order to be His witnesses to others.  As I look around at modern day, American Christianity - in this global media culture focused on image - I see environments where more attention is placed on technique, technology and delivery than on the power of Christ.  As good as technology is for bringing information and drawing the global community together in shared experiences,(and as much as I love television, movies, internet, video games and other tech advances) ultimately, it is the power and presence of Christ living within us as Believers that truly  causes us to be both distinct from the culture and yet attractive to individuals within various aspects of society.

Allen Paul Weaver III
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder in our well intentioned desire to embrace the culture, if we’re losing the very heart of the greatest story ever told?&#8221;  &#8211; You said a lot right here, Phil.  &#8211;  When John the Baptist was in prison, he sent his disciples to ask Jesus if he was The One.  John knew he was (after all he baptized him), but he was at a seriously low point in prison and desperately needed some confirmation.  Jesus&#8217; response to his disciples is, &#8220;Tell John what you hear and see. The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor. Blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me.&#8221;  ((The Amplified says [And blessed (happy, fortunate and to be envied) is he who takes no offense at Me and finds no cause for stumbling in or through Me and is not hindered from seeing the Truth.] Matthew 11:1-6)) Jesus presented a very distinct message followed by very distinct actions &#8211; and then told those who believed in Him to spread the same message and do the same things all over the world.  Our presentation should be well put together and we should be able to relate to others.  But let us not place our faith in our polished relations.  Our current society lives and breathes by this motivation.  Jesus makes it clear that we need the power and presence of the Holy Spirit working in and through us in order to be His witnesses to others.  As I look around at modern day, American Christianity &#8211; in this global media culture focused on image &#8211; I see environments where more attention is placed on technique, technology and delivery than on the power of Christ.  As good as technology is for bringing information and drawing the global community together in shared experiences,(and as much as I love television, movies, internet, video games and other tech advances) ultimately, it is the power and presence of Christ living within us as Believers that truly  causes us to be both distinct from the culture and yet attractive to individuals within various aspects of society.</p>
<p>Allen Paul Weaver III<br />
author, Transition: Breaking Through the Barriers<br />
<a href="http://www.allenpaulweaveriii.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.allenpaulweaveriii.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bart Breen</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/offensive/#comment-4255</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart Breen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended VCC many times myself when I was a student at ORU in the early 80&#039;s.  They met in the Mabee Center back then.</description>
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		<title>By: Sue in Denver</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/offensive/#comment-4256</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue in Denver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;sup&quot;&gt;&quot;&lt;/span&gt;For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power...&quot;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I Thess 1:5&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Phil,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think one of the biggest problems we have as a Christian community is our lack of power. God&#039;s power will get the world&#039;s attention without us having to say much at all!  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When all the world hears is talk...whether they relate to what we are saying or not, it means very little without a demonstration of God&#039;s power in our churches, programs, and our individual lives.  We must walk in that power in order to love the world, overcome our personal demons, and live in a way that will influence others. If and when we do that, people will notice us and the doors will be open to share our faith in a compelling way.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><span class="sup">&quot;</span>For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power&#8230;&quot;</em> <br />I Thess 1:5</p>
<p>Phil,</p>
<p>I think one of the biggest problems we have as a Christian community is our lack of power. God&#39;s power will get the world&#39;s attention without us having to say much at all!  </p>
<p>When all the world hears is talk&#8230;whether they relate to what we are saying or not, it means very little without a demonstration of God&#39;s power in our churches, programs, and our individual lives.  We must walk in that power in order to love the world, overcome our personal demons, and live in a way that will influence others. If and when we do that, people will notice us and the doors will be open to share our faith in a compelling way.  </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Boone</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/offensive/#comment-4257</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Boone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished Blue Like Jazz, and I found Donald&#039;s experience at Reed College fascinating. He met all of the aggressive and strung-out students on their level, with no agenda other than to love them. He didn&#039;t set out to purposefully &quot;save&quot; them, he just wanted to show the love that Christ exhibited while he was on this earth. If more Christians started doing that instead of arguing doctrine and telling people what they should and should not do, you might see a shift in cultural perceptions of Christians. Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished Blue Like Jazz, and I found Donald&#39;s experience at Reed College fascinating. He met all of the aggressive and strung-out students on their level, with no agenda other than to love them. He didn&#39;t set out to purposefully &quot;save&quot; them, he just wanted to show the love that Christ exhibited while he was on this earth. If more Christians started doing that instead of arguing doctrine and telling people what they should and should not do, you might see a shift in cultural perceptions of Christians. Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: AmeriKan, aka Phil</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/offensive/#comment-4258</link>
		<dc:creator>AmeriKan, aka Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue and Weaver, I am glad to hear those of like precious faith.  As you both have said, we need the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives to be an effective witness.  Acts 10:38 says that &quot;Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit and with power...went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed...&quot;  Jesus, also tells us that &quot;greater works will we do.&quot;  Some do not believe in the anointed power that produces the gifts of the Spirit, ie., healing, miracles, prophecy, tongues and interpretation...&quot;the signs that follow those who believe.&quot;  Acts 1:8 also speaks of the power of the Holy Spirit coming upon us to be witnesses.  Smith Wigglesworth was one such man in the 20th Century.  He raised 23 people from the dead (documented).  He touched every continent with the Gospel of Jesus Christ with signs following.   Venues could not hold the crowds with standing room only and thousands turned away.  He lived a consecrated, holy life and would not read anything but the Bible, not even a newspaper.  He &quot;lived and breathed&quot; the Word of God.  He authored many books....actually most are his sermon compilations.  Everincreasing Faith is still in print and can be purchased on amazon.com.  I have worn out several copies and given away many.  Would that we all would be so committed to the Gospel and the power of the Holy Spirit and less to methods and &quot;How can we make this more appealing and palatable to men.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue and Weaver, I am glad to hear those of like precious faith.  As you both have said, we need the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives to be an effective witness.  Acts 10:38 says that &quot;Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit and with power&#8230;went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed&#8230;&quot;  Jesus, also tells us that &quot;greater works will we do.&quot;  Some do not believe in the anointed power that produces the gifts of the Spirit, ie., healing, miracles, prophecy, tongues and interpretation&#8230;&quot;the signs that follow those who believe.&quot;  Acts 1:8 also speaks of the power of the Holy Spirit coming upon us to be witnesses.  Smith Wigglesworth was one such man in the 20th Century.  He raised 23 people from the dead (documented).  He touched every continent with the Gospel of Jesus Christ with signs following.   Venues could not hold the crowds with standing room only and thousands turned away.  He lived a consecrated, holy life and would not read anything but the Bible, not even a newspaper.  He &quot;lived and breathed&quot; the Word of God.  He authored many books&#8230;.actually most are his sermon compilations.  Everincreasing Faith is still in print and can be purchased on amazon.com.  I have worn out several copies and given away many.  Would that we all would be so committed to the Gospel and the power of the Holy Spirit and less to methods and &quot;How can we make this more appealing and palatable to men.&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Winkler Burke</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/offensive/#comment-4259</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Winkler Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Brothers &amp; Sisters,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here are two posts dealing with Christian truths so hard, they offend.. Nevertheless, these two stories have great truths speaking to the collosal problems of modern Christianity, which is the worship of escape vs. the enabling of indwelt Jesus in us, and honoring those who are so indwelt:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2 style=&quot;margin: 12pt 0in 3pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 16pt; font-family: &#039;Times New Roman&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The Parable of the Mark of 666&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: blue&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 48pt&quot;&gt;O&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;nce there was a gospel recording artist who weighed 350 pounds.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In fact, he had such a spirit of gluttony that his &lt;em&gt;body&lt;/em&gt; had been marked by God’s angels with a six, which is the number of fallen man.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Well, one day he read in the Book of Revelation about the mark of 666.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He wanted to know, what did it mean?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt; &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;So, he asked a proud lawyer, who was president of a Christian bible college. &lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But this man’s theology was actually so repulsive to God and so far from the Mind of Christ, that angels had marked that man’s &lt;em&gt;soul&lt;/em&gt; with a six.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt; &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;The lawyer also didn’t know what the mark of 666 meant, so he asked a famous dispensational preacher.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Now this preacher was so hungry for gain, God’s angels had marked that man’s &lt;em&gt;spirit&lt;/em&gt; with a six.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But unlike the other two men, this preacher thought he knew what the mark of 666 meant.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt; &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;The dispensational preacher said 666 was the number of the coming anti-christ.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Further, the preacher told his two friends he was becoming rich by spreading fear far and wide concerning such end-times subjects.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt; &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;This intrigued them all, so they decided to collaborate and share their talents.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As a team they made many television programs, books, movies and seminars about the expected disappearing of people who were ready to be raptured, the coming world war Armageddon battles, how to fear a dreadful anti-christ leader and especially how to avoid the one world mark of the beast.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt; &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Their work generated in their audiences great fear of the future, which they disregarded, and wealth for themselves which they didn’t.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Actually in their heart-of-hearts they didn’t believe in the rapture, because why charge for their material unless the royalties created storehouses of wealth for themselves?&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They also didn’t really believe in end-of-the-earth Armageddon battles after the passage of time proved that wars come…and they go while the earth continues.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Neither did they fear a coming anti-christ because none of their predictions had ever been true, including dire prophecies about what technology would do with the numeral six.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt; &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;But after a while each of them received from God’s angels two more markings which they never had spiritual eyes to see.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;With the marks, they could no longer buy truth.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt; &lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;By the time they died they all had become rich, envied and entirely pleased with themselves.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But in hell they learned that their &lt;em&gt;spirits&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;souls&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;bodies&lt;/em&gt; on earth had been marked by God’s angels with the number they knew nothing about:&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;666.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;margin: 0in 0in 0pt&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Sorry Televangelists&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; – Once there was a famous televangelist who loved to preach escape Christianity.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Over his life his media ministry reached 120 nations, hundreds of millions of people and garnered several billion dollars in donations and product sales.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The televangelist loved to preach and write about the escape of the rapture, the escape of eternal security and the escape of Jesus’ imminent second return fixing everybody but the faithful escapists.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Then the preacher died and was told by heaven that his triune escapology doctrines had been wrong.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jesus wanted to indwell responsible Christians, but this televangelist’s lifetime of efforts had impeded God’s kingdom of truth from coming on earth.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So since the televangelist had put himself first in Christianity all his life on earth, heaven put him dead last in heaven.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The televangelist was then, for the first time, sorry.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In fact, he was very sorry.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So for a thousand years he told everyone in heaven he was sorry.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After that, heaven told him to stop.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But the man still was sorry, and told everyone in heaven another thousand years that he was sorry.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Heaven again told him to stop.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But the man could not stop feeling sorry.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He did this for ten thousand years, until heaven realized he was actually in his own hell, and could not come out of it.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So as a mercy, heaven sent him to where he believed he belonged.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He went to hell and was extinguished in the lake of fire, because even with the gift of eternity, he could not stop being a sorry televangelist.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Many others like him had the same experience, and could not make anything of heaven but hell.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They were called the Sorry Televangelists.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Had they but once been sorry on earth for their monstrous deeds, they could have prevented themselves from filling heaven, and then hell with sorrow.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Only the lake of fire ended their misery.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Brothers &amp; Sisters,</p>
<p>Here are two posts dealing with Christian truths so hard, they offend.. Nevertheless, these two stories have great truths speaking to the collosal problems of modern Christianity, which is the worship of escape vs. the enabling of indwelt Jesus in us, and honoring those who are so indwelt:</p>
<h2 style="margin: 12pt 0in 3pt"><span style="font-size: 16pt; font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;"><em>.<span>  </span>The Parable of the Mark of 666</em></span></h2>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"><strong><span style="font-size: 48pt">O</span></strong></font><font size="3">nce there was a gospel recording artist who weighed 350 pounds.<span>  </span>In fact, he had such a spirit of gluttony that his <em>body</em> had been marked by God’s angels with a six, which is the number of fallen man.<span>  </span>Well, one day he read in the Book of Revelation about the mark of 666.<span>  </span>He wanted to know, what did it mean?</font></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">So, he asked a proud lawyer, who was president of a Christian bible college. <span>  </span>But this man’s theology was actually so repulsive to God and so far from the Mind of Christ, that angels had marked that man’s <em>soul</em> with a six.</font></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">The lawyer also didn’t know what the mark of 666 meant, so he asked a famous dispensational preacher.<span>  </span>Now this preacher was so hungry for gain, God’s angels had marked that man’s <em>spirit</em> with a six.<span>  </span>But unlike the other two men, this preacher thought he knew what the mark of 666 meant.</font></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">The dispensational preacher said 666 was the number of the coming anti-christ.<span>  </span>Further, the preacher told his two friends he was becoming rich by spreading fear far and wide concerning such end-times subjects.</font></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"></font><font face="Times New Roman">This intrigued them all, so they decided to collaborate and share their talents.<span>  </span>As a team they made many television programs, books, movies and seminars about the expected disappearing of people who were ready to be raptured, the coming world war Armageddon battles, how to fear a dreadful anti-christ leader and especially how to avoid the one world mark of the beast.<span>  </span></font></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Their work generated in their audiences great fear of the future, which they disregarded, and wealth for themselves which they didn’t.<span>  </span>Actually in their heart-of-hearts they didn’t believe in the rapture, because why charge for their material unless the royalties created storehouses of wealth for themselves?<span>  </span>They also didn’t really believe in end-of-the-earth Armageddon battles after the passage of time proved that wars come…and they go while the earth continues.<span>  </span>Neither did they fear a coming anti-christ because none of their predictions had ever been true, including dire prophecies about what technology would do with the numeral six.</font></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">But after a while each of them received from God’s angels two more markings which they never had spiritual eyes to see.<span>  </span>With the marks, they could no longer buy truth.</font></p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">By the time they died they all had become rich, envied and entirely pleased with themselves.<span>  </span>But in hell they learned that their <em>spirits</em>, <em>souls</em> and <em>bodies</em> on earth had been marked by God’s angels with the number they knew nothing about:<span>  </span>666.</font></p>
<p>and&#8230;</p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"></font><font face="Times New Roman"><strong><u>The Sorry Televangelists</u></strong> – Once there was a famous televangelist who loved to preach escape Christianity.<span>  </span>Over his life his media ministry reached 120 nations, hundreds of millions of people and garnered several billion dollars in donations and product sales.<span>  </span>The televangelist loved to preach and write about the escape of the rapture, the escape of eternal security and the escape of Jesus’ imminent second return fixing everybody but the faithful escapists.<span>  </span>Then the preacher died and was told by heaven that his triune escapology doctrines had been wrong.<span>  </span>Jesus wanted to indwell responsible Christians, but this televangelist’s lifetime of efforts had impeded God’s kingdom of truth from coming on earth.<span>  </span>So since the televangelist had put himself first in Christianity all his life on earth, heaven put him dead last in heaven.<span>  </span>The televangelist was then, for the first time, sorry.<span>  </span>In fact, he was very sorry.<span>  </span>So for a thousand years he told everyone in heaven he was sorry.<span>  </span>After that, heaven told him to stop.<span>  </span>But the man still was sorry, and told everyone in heaven another thousand years that he was sorry.<span>  </span>Heaven again told him to stop.<span>  </span>But the man could not stop feeling sorry.<span>  </span>He did this for ten thousand years, until heaven realized he was actually in his own hell, and could not come out of it.<span>  </span>So as a mercy, heaven sent him to where he believed he belonged.<span>  </span>He went to hell and was extinguished in the lake of fire, because even with the gift of eternity, he could not stop being a sorry televangelist.<span>  </span>Many others like him had the same experience, and could not make anything of heaven but hell.<span>  </span>They were called the Sorry Televangelists.<span>  </span>Had they but once been sorry on earth for their monstrous deeds, they could have prevented themselves from filling heaven, and then hell with sorrow.<span>  </span>Only the lake of fire ended their misery.</font></p>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;AmeriKan says the following about Smith Wigglesworth: &quot;He lived a consecrated, holy life and would not read anything but the Bible, not even a newspaper.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;So does that mean that Christians who are informed about what is going on in the world, and who even have the audacity to read secular books and magazines and newspapers, are morally compromised, worldly people? Then presumably, people such as C.S. Lewis and Francis Schaeffer were spiritually lacking, because both men were very well educated. Their reading materials were not limited to the Bible, although they certainly read the Bible frequently. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;The premise contained in the aforementioned quotation is bogus at best. In fact, I would argue that such a premise is designed to encourage Christians to equate holiness with ignorance, in order to reduce their capacity to strongly influence the world with the gospel of Christ. (Satan would love that!) It was precisely because Lewis and Schaeffer were well read that they had such an impact on the world. One cannot refute the fallacies promoted by modern culture if one does not know what those fallacies are.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;If I had to be limited to just one book, then of course, I would choose the Bible. Fortunately, there is no need to make such a choice. I&#039;m glad that it is possible to buy books about other subjects (such as how to operate a computer); otherwise, it&#039;s unlikely that I&#039;d be able to enter this blog post or use the Internet, to name just one of the many skills which cannot be acquired by those who limit their reading materials to the Bible alone. (And just for the record, it is likely that one would never know about Smith Wigglesworth if it were not for books about the man! Yet, if one defined holiness as &quot;avoidance of all reading materials other than the Bible&quot;, one would not be able to read such biographies.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: separate; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;As for Mr. Burke&#039;s thinly veiled attacks on the authors of the &quot;Left Behind&quot; series of books and movies, I think that those attacks are despicable. It is not enough for Burke to publicly express his disagreement with the doctrines on which those series are based. He further insists on implying that believers in premillenial dispensationalism are bound for hell. (That pretty much includes most members of the Assemblies of God church.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: separate; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;What unholy, unloving arrogance! Regardless of the merits of premillenial dispensationalism, it is not one&#039;s escatological beliefs which determine one&#039;s eternal destiny. It is faith in the saving grace and mercy of Jesus Christ, and the atonement purchased for all believers on the cross of Calvary, which saves Christians from the fires of hell. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border-collapse: separate; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal&quot; class=&quot;Apple-style-span&quot;&gt;Theology is important. I don&#039;t deny that. But the Bible does not say that unbelievers will know Christians by our impeccable theology. Rather, it says that we will be known by our love for one another. In that respect, Mr. Burke is sadly and pathetically lacking in the fruits of the Holy Spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px" class="Apple-style-span">AmeriKan says the following about Smith Wigglesworth: &quot;He lived a consecrated, holy life and would not read anything but the Bible, not even a newspaper.&quot;</span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px" class="Apple-style-span">So does that mean that Christians who are informed about what is going on in the world, and who even have the audacity to read secular books and magazines and newspapers, are morally compromised, worldly people? Then presumably, people such as C.S. Lewis and Francis Schaeffer were spiritually lacking, because both men were very well educated. Their reading materials were not limited to the Bible, although they certainly read the Bible frequently. </span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px" class="Apple-style-span">The premise contained in the aforementioned quotation is bogus at best. In fact, I would argue that such a premise is designed to encourage Christians to equate holiness with ignorance, in order to reduce their capacity to strongly influence the world with the gospel of Christ. (Satan would love that!) It was precisely because Lewis and Schaeffer were well read that they had such an impact on the world. One cannot refute the fallacies promoted by modern culture if one does not know what those fallacies are.</span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px" class="Apple-style-span">If I had to be limited to just one book, then of course, I would choose the Bible. Fortunately, there is no need to make such a choice. I&#39;m glad that it is possible to buy books about other subjects (such as how to operate a computer); otherwise, it&#39;s unlikely that I&#39;d be able to enter this blog post or use the Internet, to name just one of the many skills which cannot be acquired by those who limit their reading materials to the Bible alone. (And just for the record, it is likely that one would never know about Smith Wigglesworth if it were not for books about the man! Yet, if one defined holiness as &quot;avoidance of all reading materials other than the Bible&quot;, one would not be able to read such biographies.)</span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal" class="Apple-style-span">As for Mr. Burke&#39;s thinly veiled attacks on the authors of the &quot;Left Behind&quot; series of books and movies, I think that those attacks are despicable. It is not enough for Burke to publicly express his disagreement with the doctrines on which those series are based. He further insists on implying that believers in premillenial dispensationalism are bound for hell. (That pretty much includes most members of the Assemblies of God church.)</span></span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal" class="Apple-style-span">What unholy, unloving arrogance! Regardless of the merits of premillenial dispensationalism, it is not one&#39;s escatological beliefs which determine one&#39;s eternal destiny. It is faith in the saving grace and mercy of Jesus Christ, and the atonement purchased for all believers on the cross of Calvary, which saves Christians from the fires of hell. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 11px; line-height: 18px" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="border-collapse: separate; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal" class="Apple-style-span">Theology is important. I don&#39;t deny that. But the Bible does not say that unbelievers will know Christians by our impeccable theology. Rather, it says that we will be known by our love for one another. In that respect, Mr. Burke is sadly and pathetically lacking in the fruits of the Holy Spirit.</span></span></p>
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