Comments on: Pastors Who are Uncomfortable Marketing the Church http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/ Change Revolution Tue, 22 May 2012 20:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Best Blogs/Videos/Reading Of The Week: No. 1 | Steve Fogg: Clear & Simple http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/#comment-12483 Best Blogs/Videos/Reading Of The Week: No. 1 | Steve Fogg: Clear & Simple Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:51:09 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/no_marketing#comment-12483 [...] Pastors who are uncomfortable marketing the church by Phil Cooke [...] [...] Pastors who are uncomfortable marketing the church by Phil Cooke [...]

]]> By: Joshua Gordon http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/#comment-11288 Joshua Gordon Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:11:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/no_marketing#comment-11288 I've heard it said that communication has a lot more to do with the ability to listen than the ability to speak. I’ve heard it said that communication has a lot more to do with the ability to listen than the ability to speak.

]]> By: Rich Baikie http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/#comment-9444 Rich Baikie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/no_marketing#comment-9444 I would ask pastors who feel that there should be no branding or marketing whether they have a sign on their church building or their telephone number listed in the yellow pages. That is marketing in its most basic form. I would ask pastors who feel that there should be no branding or marketing whether they have a sign on their church building or their telephone number listed in the yellow pages. That is marketing in its most basic form.

]]> By: ChURcHwORlD 2.0 http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/#comment-9445 ChURcHwORlD 2.0 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/no_marketing#comment-9445 Dear God I love Phil Cooke. Don’t always agree with everything he says, and I’m ok with that, but posts like today keep me coming back for more. GO GET’EM PHIL! Dear God I love Phil Cooke. Don’t always agree with everything he says, and I’m ok with that, but posts like today keep me coming back for more. GO GET’EM PHIL!

]]> By: Jack Fisher http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/#comment-9446 Jack Fisher Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/no_marketing#comment-9446 To choose not to market/brand your church is to choose to market/brand your church. We can't get away from it and ignoring it won't make it go away. Great post... thanks. To choose not to market/brand your church is to choose to market/brand your church. We can’t get away from it and ignoring it won’t make it go away. Great post… thanks.

]]> By: David Hawley http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/#comment-9447 David Hawley Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/no_marketing#comment-9447 I think it's the other aspects of marketing-as-practiced that turns people off: the idea of customers, the focus on felt needs, the emphasis on presentation versus substance. I think it’s the other aspects of marketing-as-practiced that turns people off: the idea of customers, the focus on felt needs, the emphasis on presentation versus substance.

]]> By: Daniel Hahn http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/#comment-9448 Daniel Hahn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/no_marketing#comment-9448 Agreed, Phil. The problem is that some Pastors/Churches market their church a little too well, and it turns people off. Not just church people (who feel they've overdone it), but non-church people (who typically don't like churches anyway, and this is just one more excuse). But that can't and shouldn't stop churches from using resources that are available. Especially when they're as inexpensive as they are today using Social Media. Agreed, Phil. The problem is that some Pastors/Churches market their church a little too well, and it turns people off. Not just church people (who feel they’ve overdone it), but non-church people (who typically don’t like churches anyway, and this is just one more excuse).

But that can’t and shouldn’t stop churches from using resources that are available. Especially when they’re as inexpensive as they are today using Social Media.

]]> By: Robert Winkler Burke http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/#comment-9449 Robert Winkler Burke Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/no_marketing#comment-9449 Agreed, Phil. But how would you market Repentance-Spirit-Filled Revival, as "advertised" by Andrew Strom of, I think, New Zealand...? How would you "Brand" this kind of sermon?... The Crisis of Contemporary Christianity...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj9to_M4460&NR=1 Agreed, Phil. But how would you market Repentance-Spirit-Filled Revival, as “advertised” by Andrew Strom of, I think, New Zealand…? How would you “Brand” this kind of sermon?… The Crisis of Contemporary Christianity…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj9to_M4460&NR=1

]]> By: David A Moore http://philcooke.com/no_marketing/#comment-9450 David A Moore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/no_marketing#comment-9450 Phil, this is the first time I've read one of your posts. I must say it was way overdue. I'm a big advocate of church marketing done right. It's the "right" part that many of us seem to disagree with. I did several blog posts a few months ago when I came across a particular blog post that I felt missed the point completely. What I settled on was that we must look at the motive of the marketer. And if a church or ministry is changing lives, leadig people to Christ, if would be a sin NOT to tell others. And isn't that what marketing really is...just telling others your story. Phil, this is the first time I’ve read one of your posts. I must say it was way overdue. I’m a big advocate of church marketing done right. It’s the “right” part that many of us seem to disagree with. I did several blog posts a few months ago when I came across a particular blog post that I felt missed the point completely. What I settled on was that we must look at the motive of the marketer. And if a church or ministry is changing lives, leadig people to Christ, if would be a sin NOT to tell others. And isn’t that what marketing really is…just telling others your story.

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