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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Branding, even in its most subtle aspects can be a powerful draw.  I remember Lakewood Church in Houston.  It was branded, not like some cold drink, or hamburger, but with a simple promise.  It was called the &quot;Oasis of Love&quot;.  What made Lakewood stand out of the crowded Chruch environment was that to those people who had attended the Church, they found it to be truely an Oasis of Love.  Ever faithful to that concept.  The ministry lived up to the promise of its branding.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Way back in the early 80&#039;s I was in a high level meeting with the President of CocaCola foods, the Minutemade brand.  He and his team were pitching their new advertising plan for Minutemade Orange Drink to the CocaCola Chairman.  They had cans all printed up in military camouflage and a strong military tough enough to take it attitude.  They made their presentation and all seemed to be very satisfied with what they had created.  I being the somewhat pessimistic person thought it all through and felt the urge to ask the advertizing executive if with all the news at that time about Agent Orange and its connection to all the Vietnam veterans, did they not think that this would come off as a bit of a stab at them connecting their orange drink to a military theme.  The exec stood there looking at me as if I was from another planet.  He was quite for a bit and then said, We have worked on this for months, and your the first to make that connection.  I never saw that campaign.  I doubt it was my input, but maybe a better plan was put forward.  In that sense, I see way too much bad Church branding by Ministers with egos bigger than their ministry.  Enough said..Don&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Branding, even in its most subtle aspects can be a powerful draw.  I remember Lakewood Church in Houston.  It was branded, not like some cold drink, or hamburger, but with a simple promise.  It was called the &quot;Oasis of Love&quot;.  What made Lakewood stand out of the crowded Chruch environment was that to those people who had attended the Church, they found it to be truely an Oasis of Love.  Ever faithful to that concept.  The ministry lived up to the promise of its branding.  </p>
<p>Way back in the early 80&#39;s I was in a high level meeting with the President of CocaCola foods, the Minutemade brand.  He and his team were pitching their new advertising plan for Minutemade Orange Drink to the CocaCola Chairman.  They had cans all printed up in military camouflage and a strong military tough enough to take it attitude.  They made their presentation and all seemed to be very satisfied with what they had created.  I being the somewhat pessimistic person thought it all through and felt the urge to ask the advertizing executive if with all the news at that time about Agent Orange and its connection to all the Vietnam veterans, did they not think that this would come off as a bit of a stab at them connecting their orange drink to a military theme.  The exec stood there looking at me as if I was from another planet.  He was quite for a bit and then said, We have worked on this for months, and your the first to make that connection.  I never saw that campaign.  I doubt it was my input, but maybe a better plan was put forward.  In that sense, I see way too much bad Church branding by Ministers with egos bigger than their ministry.  Enough said..Don</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>Your branding info is good. We&#039;ve been trying to impliment most of what you&#039;ve said...the art of media is more business than anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your branding info is good. We&#39;ve been trying to impliment most of what you&#39;ve said&#8230;the art of media is more business than anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The 10 component of an effective brand are interesting and a great template to apply to any desired brand.  But the formulation of the brand needs to take place in a somewhat different context.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Frist thing to remember - brands happen!  Whether or not we control the development of a brand is our choice, but every ministry, every minister, every organization, every company has a brand.  It is inevitable.  All too often brands are allowed to develop randomly containing a hodge-podge of information - thereby negating the impact of a well constructed brand.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Secondly, real brand are based on reality! You can&#039;t brand something to be something is it not.  Ultimately the facade will crumble and all integrity and brand confidence will be lost.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thirdly, effective brand development is hard work.  Components like brand personaility, brand attirbutes, etc, need to be clearly defined. THEN - the work begins.  Every aspect of the entity needs to highlight that brand.  Customer service mist reflect the brand; sales must reflect the brand; product quality must reflect the brand, communication devices must reflect the brand; all with consistency, harmony and unity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then - - overlay your brand woth these 10 components to maximize it impact.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 10 component of an effective brand are interesting and a great template to apply to any desired brand.  But the formulation of the brand needs to take place in a somewhat different context.  </p>
<p>Frist thing to remember - brands happen!  Whether or not we control the development of a brand is our choice, but every ministry, every minister, every organization, every company has a brand.  It is inevitable.  All too often brands are allowed to develop randomly containing a hodge-podge of information &#8211; thereby negating the impact of a well constructed brand.</p>
<p>Secondly, real brand are based on reality! You can&#39;t brand something to be something is it not.  Ultimately the facade will crumble and all integrity and brand confidence will be lost.</p>
<p>Thirdly, effective brand development is hard work.  Components like brand personaility, brand attirbutes, etc, need to be clearly defined. THEN &#8211; the work begins.  Every aspect of the entity needs to highlight that brand.  Customer service mist reflect the brand; sales must reflect the brand; product quality must reflect the brand, communication devices must reflect the brand; all with consistency, harmony and unity.</p>
<p>Then &#8211; - overlay your brand woth these 10 components to maximize it impact.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Branding is hard for the church. They have to know their history, present identity and furure vision at the same time. They must discern the best of all these things and formulate from there. They must commit fully with their heart, time, resources and money. This is HARD for the church with its present structure (business model).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, branding starts at home...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What kind of God-brand do YOU represent at home, neighborhood or workplace.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are ALL marketing HIM.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;R&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Branding is hard for the church. They have to know their history, present identity and furure vision at the same time. They must discern the best of all these things and formulate from there. They must commit fully with their heart, time, resources and money. This is HARD for the church with its present structure (business model).</p>
<p>Also, branding starts at home&#8230;</p>
<p>What kind of God-brand do YOU represent at home, neighborhood or workplace.</p>
<p>We are ALL marketing HIM.</p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t see branding as positive or negative per se.  It simply is an extension of human psychology tied into identity and the desire of human beings to be part of something bigger than themselves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As such it doesn&#039;t bother me to talk about its impact in the Church.  The Church is part and parcel of that branding and identification.  At the highest level, the cross, the dove of the holy spirit, the flames of pentecost etc. when presented in a meaningful context serve as a vehicle to send a message and they have for centuries.  We may raise the level of sophistication in how we attempt to understand and manipulate this dynamic but the fact remains, it is part of our common human experience and identifications.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I like the final comment where the brand transends to a way of life.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Maybe we&#039;re looking at it backwards?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is the at the highest level of Christian Identification and belief that descends to something as common as a brand to give it meaning and motivate people within to aspire to that lofty standard and when it is consistent and sincere, to attract those outside to become a part of something bigger than themselves.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t see branding as positive or negative per se.  It simply is an extension of human psychology tied into identity and the desire of human beings to be part of something bigger than themselves.</p>
<p>As such it doesn&#39;t bother me to talk about its impact in the Church.  The Church is part and parcel of that branding and identification.  At the highest level, the cross, the dove of the holy spirit, the flames of pentecost etc. when presented in a meaningful context serve as a vehicle to send a message and they have for centuries.  We may raise the level of sophistication in how we attempt to understand and manipulate this dynamic but the fact remains, it is part of our common human experience and identifications.</p>
<p>I like the final comment where the brand transends to a way of life.  </p>
<p>Maybe we&#39;re looking at it backwards?</p>
<p>It is the at the highest level of Christian Identification and belief that descends to something as common as a brand to give it meaning and motivate people within to aspire to that lofty standard and when it is consistent and sincere, to attract those outside to become a part of something bigger than themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
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		<description>You&#039;re on to something significant Bart.  While most marketers look at it from the outside in - how faith is similar to branding, in my book &quot;Branding Faith&quot; I take the opposite approach.  The truth is, outside of family, the church is the original community, and branding has copied these techniques from religious faith.  The problem is - the church has lost it&#039;s story, and we&#039;ve forgotten just how good we used to be at providing identity and meaning for people&#039;s lives.  We have to get that back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re on to something significant Bart.  While most marketers look at it from the outside in &#8211; how faith is similar to branding, in my book &quot;Branding Faith&quot; I take the opposite approach.  The truth is, outside of family, the church is the original community, and branding has copied these techniques from religious faith.  The problem is &#8211; the church has lost it&#39;s story, and we&#39;ve forgotten just how good we used to be at providing identity and meaning for people&#39;s lives.  We have to get that back.</p>
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