Comments on: “It’s Not a Christian Organization if Christ Isn’t In the Name” http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/ Change Revolution Tue, 22 May 2012 02:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Marc Lougee http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-13632 Marc Lougee Mon, 26 Dec 2011 01:48:00 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-13632 Great post! As a filmmaker, and a Christian, I often plunge headlong into the argument of my media efforts lacking 'Christ' in both name and outright presence in the work... interesting, as the work shares experiences, creates dialogue, and is most definitely reflecting my values as a Christian. Thaks for your toughts on the topic, Phil- and your brillaint examples. The media workshop header is so hammer to nail-- let's make an effort to help folks bridge the gap between shallow criticism, and being open-minded. It's the message, no? Great post!
As a filmmaker, and a Christian, I often plunge headlong into the argument of my media efforts lacking ‘Christ’ in both name and outright presence in the work… interesting, as the work shares experiences, creates dialogue, and is most definitely reflecting my values as a Christian.

Thaks for your toughts on the topic, Phil- and your brillaint examples. The media workshop header is so hammer to nail– let’s make an effort to help folks bridge the gap between shallow criticism, and being open-minded. It’s the message, no?

]]> By: Chris http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-12541 Chris Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:14:00 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-12541 I cringe when people don't do the simplest research. Xmas is not about taking Christ out of Christmas. See this Wikipedia entry below: "Xmas" is a common abbreviation of the word "Christmas". It is sometimes pronounced /ˈɛksməs/, but it, and variants such as "Xtemass", originated as handwriting abbreviations for the typical pronunciation /ˈkrɪsməs/. The "-mas" part is from the Latin-derived Old English word for "Mass",[1] while the "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as "Christ".[2] There is a common misconception that the word Xmas is a secular attempt to remove the religious tradition from Christmas[3] by taking the "Christ" out of "Christmas".The word "Christ" and its compounds, including "Christmas", have been abbreviated in English for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern "Xmas" was commonly used. "Christ" was often written as "XP" or "Xt"; there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as AD 1021. This X and P arose as the uppercase forms of theGreek letters χ and ρ used in ancient abbreviations for Χριστος (Greek for "Christ"),[2] and are still widely seen in many Eastern Orthodox icons depicting Jesus Christ. Thelabarum, an amalgamation of the two Greek letters rendered as ☧, is a symbol often used to represent Christ in Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox Christian Churches.[18] I cringe when people don’t do the simplest research. Xmas is not about taking Christ out of Christmas. See this Wikipedia entry below:
“Xmas” is a common abbreviation of the word “Christmas”. It is sometimes pronounced /ˈɛksməs/, but it, and variants such as “Xtemass”, originated as handwriting abbreviations for the typical pronunciation /ˈkrɪsməs/. The “-mas” part is from the Latin-derived Old English word for “Mass”,[1] while the “X” comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as “Christ”.[2]
There is a common misconception that the word Xmas is a secular attempt to remove the religious tradition from Christmas[3] by taking the “Christ” out of “Christmas”.The word “Christ” and its compounds, including “Christmas”, have been abbreviated in English for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern “Xmas” was commonly used. “Christ” was often written as “XP” or “Xt”; there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as AD 1021. This X and P arose as the uppercase forms of theGreek letters χ and ρ used in ancient abbreviations for Χριστος (Greek for “Christ”),[2] and are still widely seen in many Eastern Orthodox icons depicting Jesus Christ. Thelabarum, an amalgamation of the two Greek letters rendered as ☧, is a symbol often used to represent Christ in Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox Christian Churches.[18]

]]> By: Campus Crusade for Christ’s New U. S. Ministry Name | Mike and Sus Schmitt http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-12193 Campus Crusade for Christ’s New U. S. Ministry Name | Mike and Sus Schmitt Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:56:42 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-12193 [...] Phil Cooke [...] [...] Phil Cooke [...]

]]> By: Dick http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-12153 Dick Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:33:00 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-12153 I don't have a problem with changing the name except the word "Cru" seems to be like a secret password or abbreviation for the word "crusade" and I wonder then if the people you were afraid of offending will see any difference. I don’t have a problem with changing the name except the word “Cru” seems to be like a secret password or abbreviation for the word “crusade” and I wonder then if the people you were afraid of offending will see any difference.

]]> By: Anonymous http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-12149 Anonymous Mon, 01 Aug 2011 12:39:00 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-12149 Years ago when a particular Christian singer began to have non-religious hits, another singer/musician responded by saying that if you are going to do "crossover" (artistry)...be sure to take the cross over. Jingoism at its best. I haven't figured it all out, yet. Speaking of things "Christian", how about the name "Church" of Scientology, with a cross on some of their buildings? Doesn't seem to keep many Hollywood celebs away. Maybe that's because Jesus is not really the center of that "church"-? Years ago when a particular Christian singer began to have non-religious hits, another singer/musician responded by saying that if you are going to do “crossover” (artistry)…be sure to take the cross over. Jingoism at its best.

I haven’t figured it all out, yet. Speaking of things “Christian”, how about the name “Church” of Scientology, with a cross on some of their buildings? Doesn’t seem to keep many Hollywood celebs away. Maybe that’s because Jesus is not really the center of that “church”-?

]]> By: Isoa Vakaciwa Kata http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-12147 Isoa Vakaciwa Kata Mon, 01 Aug 2011 11:12:00 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-12147 As long as the will of the Lord is done and the vision of the CCFC is maintained and sustained!!!!  Let us not make it a big issue!!!  Just keep supporting them..I was fortunate to have been grounded in the Word by CCFC here in Suva, Fiji in 1983 while a student at the University of the South Pacific!!!  The same people are there and I trust them as they have not changed although there is a new name!!! As long as the will of the Lord is done and the vision of the CCFC is maintained and sustained!!!!  Let us not make it a big issue!!!  Just keep supporting them..I was fortunate to have been grounded in the Word by CCFC here in Suva, Fiji in 1983 while a student at the University of the South Pacific!!!  The same people are there and I trust them as they have not changed although there is a new name!!!

]]> By: Stephen Court http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-12141 Stephen Court Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:33:00 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-12141 Coincidental.  I just started reading your book JOLT.  And so I googled you to find out more and came on your blog.  And earlier today I posted on the same subject (CRU) from a different perspective (but the same point) for a different audience - http://www.armybarmy.com/blog.html (July 31).  I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the book.  Much grace. Coincidental.  I just started reading your book JOLT.  And so I googled you to find out more and came on your blog.  And earlier today I posted on the same subject (CRU) from a different perspective (but the same point) for a different audience – http://www.armybarmy.com/blog.html (July 31).  I’m looking forward to reading the rest of the book.  Much grace.

]]> By: David Patchin http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-12140 David Patchin Sun, 31 Jul 2011 02:22:00 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-12140 Well said Phil. The "heat" about the change has overwhelmed the light. Thanks for a reasoned and focused response. I wrote a blog about it here too: http://churchaccomplished.com/changing-your-name Well said Phil. The “heat” about the change has overwhelmed the light. Thanks for a reasoned and focused response. I wrote a blog about it here too: http://churchaccomplished.com/changing-your-name

]]> By: Truth http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-12139 Truth Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:56:00 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-12139 As long as Christ is still the center of the gospel message they preach...... www.thetruthstings.com As long as Christ is still the center of the gospel message they preach……

http://www.thetruthstings.com

]]> By: Anonymous http://philcooke.com/its-not-a-christian-organization-if-christ-isnt-in-the-name/#comment-12138 Anonymous Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:15:00 +0000 http://philcooke.com/?p=6282#comment-12138 Before you get too upset about "X" in place of "Christ", do some studying on the origin of Christmas. Before you get too upset about “X” in place of “Christ”, do some studying on the origin of Christmas.

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