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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-14523</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, We must be aware in the last days there will be many counterfeit voices saying I am he! prophets not sent by God. False ministries will stand alongside the true ones. You can be assured if everything seems to be about money there is a good chance they serve the God of Mammon not Jesus Christ. Give to what matters to Jesus, read the Gospels. Does the ministry give to the poor and outcast?  Or is it just the reflection of someones ego.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, We must be aware in the last days there will be many counterfeit voices saying I am he! prophets not sent by God. False ministries will stand alongside the true ones. You can be assured if everything seems to be about money there is a good chance they serve the God of Mammon not Jesus Christ. Give to what matters to Jesus, read the Gospels. Does the ministry give to the poor and outcast?  Or is it just the reflection of someones ego.  </p>
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		<title>By: Debtsfreedom</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-11615</link>
		<dc:creator>Debtsfreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Debtsfreedom</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-11614</link>
		<dc:creator>Debtsfreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question,

No doubt, in these difficult economic times where millions are still unemployed and families are struggling, volunteerism is down, as well as donations, and I don’t expect to see recession end anytime soon.

What I researched was all the fundraisers which actually save people money, not cost them money, and I found nothing that fit the times and was recession proof. When I found and researched this unique new fundraiser, I had almost given up in my search.

Simply put, no one likes to sell the traditional overpriced candy, cookies, pizza dough, wrapping paper, discount cards, or more expensive campaigns of raffles or carnivals, and I have done them all. With fewer volunteers due to economy, fewer people with spare time to donate, things are getting worse, not better. When my daughter selling half the girl scout cookies this year over last, this says it all to me.

If you could offer your volunteers an incentive worth thousands which everyone should have, and few can afford, would this help your fundraisers results with more volunteers? When you can offer the average family up to $100K legacy life benefit, plus access to health medical RX benefit plans, how many families would be helped by the above? Again, verified value is what people are looking for, not overpriced products which have been used in traditional fundraisers for decades.

If you do not like selling, then learn about the concept of telling and sharing the value of peace of mind for your family. For any NPO or any charity fundraiser, ones which focus on Christian values, children outreach, bullying, child protection services, internet education, helping homeless, feeding the hungry, combined with many more money saving benefits of membership, nothing is easier to share with others than saving money while helping others. People helping people is our mission, raising unlimited funds is our goal for all non profit organizations.

Join-Free to learn more and receive an instant free custom website to promote.

God Bless All,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question,</p>
<p>No doubt, in these difficult economic times where millions are still unemployed and families are struggling, volunteerism is down, as well as donations, and I don’t expect to see recession end anytime soon.</p>
<p>What I researched was all the fundraisers which actually save people money, not cost them money, and I found nothing that fit the times and was recession proof. When I found and researched this unique new fundraiser, I had almost given up in my search.</p>
<p>Simply put, no one likes to sell the traditional overpriced candy, cookies, pizza dough, wrapping paper, discount cards, or more expensive campaigns of raffles or carnivals, and I have done them all. With fewer volunteers due to economy, fewer people with spare time to donate, things are getting worse, not better. When my daughter selling half the girl scout cookies this year over last, this says it all to me.</p>
<p>If you could offer your volunteers an incentive worth thousands which everyone should have, and few can afford, would this help your fundraisers results with more volunteers? When you can offer the average family up to $100K legacy life benefit, plus access to health medical RX benefit plans, how many families would be helped by the above? Again, verified value is what people are looking for, not overpriced products which have been used in traditional fundraisers for decades.</p>
<p>If you do not like selling, then learn about the concept of telling and sharing the value of peace of mind for your family. For any NPO or any charity fundraiser, ones which focus on Christian values, children outreach, bullying, child protection services, internet education, helping homeless, feeding the hungry, combined with many more money saving benefits of membership, nothing is easier to share with others than saving money while helping others. People helping people is our mission, raising unlimited funds is our goal for all non profit organizations.</p>
<p>Join-Free to learn more and receive an instant free custom website to promote.</p>
<p>God Bless All,</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Montella</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-1764</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg Montella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked in data entry for a ministry with tens of thousands on their mailing list. Every time a person sent a prayer request and/or money, we plugged in every detail that would generate the most specific and personalized response. I no longer work there - and could never return because of my conscience.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;These letters are deceptive. They are designed to make individuals believe the &quot;man or woman of God&quot; has taken a personal interest and written a personal letter to them. With that kind of care, people will of course give more.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I believe it is more than simply savvy marketing; it is a form of spiritual abuse. People in need of ministry open themselves up to these ministers, and their giving is often based upon a false perception. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&quot;Wow! He/She cares enough about me to know my name, took the time to write and sign a letter to me, and is personally praying for me! I&#039;m so thankful for his/her personal pastoral touch that I&#039;m going to write a check right now!&quot; Unfortunately, that minister doesn&#039;t even know that person exists.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The way of integrity - honesty, transparency, with no hint of manipulation - are either true personal letters, or mass mailings written by the minister, addressed to &quot;friends&quot; or &quot;partners&quot;. Enough of the manipulation! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked in data entry for a ministry with tens of thousands on their mailing list. Every time a person sent a prayer request and/or money, we plugged in every detail that would generate the most specific and personalized response. I no longer work there &#8211; and could never return because of my conscience.
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<div>These letters are deceptive. They are designed to make individuals believe the &quot;man or woman of God&quot; has taken a personal interest and written a personal letter to them. With that kind of care, people will of course give more.  </div>
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<div>I believe it is more than simply savvy marketing; it is a form of spiritual abuse. People in need of ministry open themselves up to these ministers, and their giving is often based upon a false perception. </div>
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<div>&quot;Wow! He/She cares enough about me to know my name, took the time to write and sign a letter to me, and is personally praying for me! I&#39;m so thankful for his/her personal pastoral touch that I&#39;m going to write a check right now!&quot; Unfortunately, that minister doesn&#39;t even know that person exists.</div>
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<div>The way of integrity &#8211; honesty, transparency, with no hint of manipulation &#8211; are either true personal letters, or mass mailings written by the minister, addressed to &quot;friends&quot; or &quot;partners&quot;. Enough of the manipulation! </div>
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		<title>By: Mary Hutchinson</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Hutchinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;Hi, my name is Mary.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; I am a ministry fundraiser (Hi, Mary, the crowd says).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;I write letters and design them to get response.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; I am measured by&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;my clients by the amount of money I raise to help them do their good work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;I study what works and I do more of it --but only if it is keeping with the heart, message and vision of the ministry and the Lord I serve.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; I have to sleep nights too.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;Twenty years ago, the goal was to be in homes before the first, so it arrived before the Social Security checks did.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; Phil, those days are long past. No one gets a check in the mail anymore.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; Even grandma is on direct deposit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;We time mailings according to donor likes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; We mail more often to donor&#039;s who respond many times a year, less to annual givers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;I doubt anyone savvy enough to be reading your website thinks that Billy Graham does his own underlining on his letters.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;The suggested gift is driven by a donor&#039;s giving history, not the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;largest gift they have ever given, but their average (most of the time).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; Why ask a person to give $100 if they have only given $10.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; It&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt;’&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;s too big a leap.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; Why ask someone who gives $100 to give $10, it shows you don&#039;t know anything about them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;Color of paper...sorry.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; I have not tested that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;Jesus junk, you are right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; But we give people what they want, not what they &quot;should want&quot;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;I have a little girl that if I put a plate of fried eggs on the table, she will sail them across the room.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; If&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;I give her scrambled eggs, she eats every bite.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;I give them to her the way she wants them because at the end of the day, its still eggs.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;If I can read a data report and find out which donors want them fried and which want them scrambled --what is the harm of that?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt; Why not mail Phil Cooke a &quot;non Jesus junk mailing with no underlining and a $100 ask&quot; and his dad a &quot;Jesus junk, $10 ask version of the same&quot;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;Love you Phil...But can&#039;t amen you on this one.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#039;Lucida Grande&#039;&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot;&gt;mary@creativeone.com&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt; &lt;/font&gt; &lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">Hi, my name is Mary.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> I am a ministry fundraiser (Hi, Mary, the crowd says).</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">I write letters and design them to get response.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> I am measured by</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">my clients by the amount of money I raise to help them do their good work.</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">I study what works and I do more of it &#8211;but only if it is keeping with the heart, message and vision of the ministry and the Lord I serve.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> I have to sleep nights too.</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">Twenty years ago, the goal was to be in homes before the first, so it arrived before the Social Security checks did.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> Phil, those days are long past. No one gets a check in the mail anymore.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> Even grandma is on direct deposit.</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">We time mailings according to donor likes.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> We mail more often to donor&#39;s who respond many times a year, less to annual givers.</span></font><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"><font face="Times New Roman">I doubt anyone savvy enough to be reading your website thinks that Billy Graham does his own underlining on his letters.</font></span><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">The suggested gift is driven by a donor&#39;s giving history, not the</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">largest gift they have ever given, but their average (most of the time).</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> Why ask a person to give $100 if they have only given $10.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> It</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226">’</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">s too big a leap.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> Why ask someone who gives $100 to give $10, it shows you don&#39;t know anything about them.</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">Color of paper&#8230;sorry.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> I have not tested that.</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">Jesus junk, you are right.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> But we give people what they want, not what they &quot;should want&quot;.</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">I have a little girl that if I put a plate of fried eggs on the table, she will sail them across the room.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> If</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">I give her scrambled eggs, she eats every bite.</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"></span></font><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"><font face="Times New Roman">I give them to her the way she wants them because at the end of the day, its still eggs.</font></span><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;">If I can read a data report and find out which donors want them fried and which want them scrambled &#8211;what is the harm of that?</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226"> </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"> Why not mail Phil Cooke a &quot;non Jesus junk mailing with no underlining and a $100 ask&quot; and his dad a &quot;Jesus junk, $10 ask version of the same&quot;?</span></font><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"><font face="Times New Roman">Love you Phil&#8230;But can&#39;t amen you on this one.</font></span><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: #5d4226; font-family: &#39;Lucida Grande&#39;"><font face="Times New Roman"><a href="mailto:mary@creativeone.com">mary@creativeone.com</a></font></span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> </font>
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		<title>By: Chad Arment</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-1766</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Arment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real problem with fundraising is not the way they get people to open the envelope - that&#039;s just basic marketing; it is the blatant manipulation that some (not all) organizations develop by playing to the &quot;us&quot; versus &quot;them&quot; mentality. If you don&#039;t send us money, they&#039;re going to win. It&#039;s possible to stand up for Biblical principles, evangelize, and promote discipleship without endorsing fear as a legitimate perspective for thoughtful, prayerful Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem with fundraising is not the way they get people to open the envelope &#8211; that&#39;s just basic marketing; it is the blatant manipulation that some (not all) organizations develop by playing to the &quot;us&quot; versus &quot;them&quot; mentality. If you don&#39;t send us money, they&#39;re going to win. It&#39;s possible to stand up for Biblical principles, evangelize, and promote discipleship without endorsing fear as a legitimate perspective for thoughtful, prayerful Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm Mintle</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-1767</link>
		<dc:creator>Norm Mintle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting conversation so far. I&#039;ve purposefully waited a couple of days to respond, wondering about the tone Phil&#039;s obviously provocative post would engender. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m dismayed not so much by the manipulation or integrity of the &#039;system,&#039; but that the system exists at all. We&#039;re all fully functionally aware of how it works - both Gregg and Mary make valid points (albeit from two sides of the same coin). It&#039;s easy to imagine that they both work/ed at the exact same shop with such widely variant opinions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I too, have been employed in this crazy biz long enough to have seen the excesses and the blessings created within the D.R. world. But my angst over the matter runs hot and cold; maybe I&#039;m just too crusty to care about it anymore. On the one hand, everyone who receives &#039;junk mail&#039; has the same right to trash it (before or after opening) as they do to hit the remote control and not watch the shows that generate the paper.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, when are we (as an industry) going to finally realize there is a better...far, far better way?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting conversation so far. I&#39;ve purposefully waited a couple of days to respond, wondering about the tone Phil&#39;s obviously provocative post would engender. </p>
<p>I&#39;m dismayed not so much by the manipulation or integrity of the &#39;system,&#39; but that the system exists at all. We&#39;re all fully functionally aware of how it works &#8211; both Gregg and Mary make valid points (albeit from two sides of the same coin). It&#39;s easy to imagine that they both work/ed at the exact same shop with such widely variant opinions.</p>
<p>I too, have been employed in this crazy biz long enough to have seen the excesses and the blessings created within the D.R. world. But my angst over the matter runs hot and cold; maybe I&#39;m just too crusty to care about it anymore. On the one hand, everyone who receives &#39;junk mail&#39; has the same right to trash it (before or after opening) as they do to hit the remote control and not watch the shows that generate the paper.</p>
<p>On the other hand, when are we (as an industry) going to finally realize there is a better&#8230;far, far better way?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Hutchinson</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-1768</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Hutchinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Norm, nice to &quot;see&quot; you again.  Its been a while.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I appreciate your comments... and would love to hear the &quot;better way.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Every one of us modifies how we communicate to someone if we want a certain response from them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most husbands know that the night they want their wives to look at them in a romantic way is not the night they they bring out the details of overspending on the family budget.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now I do agree with Gregg when it is abused.  I think of one guy in Texas opening his letters with:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Mary, God woke me up at 2:12 AM last night to pray for you ...Mary, He gave me a word for you...&quot;  Makes me sick!  especially since God always seems to tell him that I am supposed to send in $1000.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That is &lt;strong&gt;so different&lt;/strong&gt; than noticing (via a datbase) that someone never orders tapes of any subject ...and therefore only offer them books in future mailings.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is a right way to use this info-- don&#039;t lump us all together.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm, nice to &quot;see&quot; you again.  Its been a while.</p>
<p>I appreciate your comments&#8230; and would love to hear the &quot;better way.&quot;</p>
<p>Every one of us modifies how we communicate to someone if we want a certain response from them.</p>
<p>Most husbands know that the night they want their wives to look at them in a romantic way is not the night they they bring out the details of overspending on the family budget.</p>
<p>Now I do agree with Gregg when it is abused.  I think of one guy in Texas opening his letters with:</p>
<p>&quot;Mary, God woke me up at 2:12 AM last night to pray for you &#8230;Mary, He gave me a word for you&#8230;&quot;  Makes me sick!  especially since God always seems to tell him that I am supposed to send in $1000.</p>
<p>That is <strong>so different</strong> than noticing (via a datbase) that someone never orders tapes of any subject &#8230;and therefore only offer them books in future mailings.</p>
<p>There is a right way to use this info&#8211; don&#39;t lump us all together.</p>
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		<title>By: mattbob83</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-1769</link>
		<dc:creator>mattbob83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; According to Phil: &lt;/b&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt; &quot;I am suggesting we become informed givers. Don’t be a ministry zombie and give on impulse – for any reason. Give because you’ve researched a ministry, believe in what it’s doing in the world, have confirmed it’s integrity and track record, and then prayed about the gift.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;

&lt;b&gt; &lt;h5&gt; I agree &lt;/b&gt; &lt;/h5&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Is it wrong to ask for money to support ministry?  No, Paul did it frequently in the epistles.  And He let Timothy know that ministers deserve to be paid for their work.  I think marketing from a Christian world view needs to be focused on informing donors where there money is going and how it is being used.  In the end, its not the ministries money, but the Lord&#039;s.  1 Corinthians is clear that we should not give out of impulse or guilt, but out of love and thanksgiving to God.  Sure we need to communicate to our audience in appropriate and effective ways, but purposed manipulation should not be a method of fund-raising.  Communicate the effectiveness of the ministry, share the need, and let God do the rest.  Consider the following verses:
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&lt;b&gt; 1 Timothy 5:17- 18: &lt;/b&gt;&quot;Elders who do their work well should be paid well, especially those who work hard at both preaching and teaching.  For the Scripture says, &quot;Do not keep an ox from eating as it treads out the grain.&quot; And in another place, &quot;Those who work deserve their pay!&quot;
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&lt;b&gt;2 Corinthians 8:11b-12 &lt;/b&gt; &quot;Give whatever you can according to what you have. If you are really eager to give, it isn&#039;t important how much you are able to give. God wants you to give what you have, not what you don&#039;t have.
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&lt;b&gt;2 Corinthians 9:7 &lt;/b&gt;You must each make up your own mind as to how much you should give. Don&#039;t give reluctantly or in response to pressure. For God loves the person who gives cheerfully.
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mattbob83.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> According to Phil: </b> </p>
<p><i> &#8220;I am suggesting we become informed givers. Don’t be a ministry zombie and give on impulse – for any reason. Give because you’ve researched a ministry, believe in what it’s doing in the world, have confirmed it’s integrity and track record, and then prayed about the gift.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p><b><br />
<h5> I agree </h5>
<p></b> </p>
<p>
Is it wrong to ask for money to support ministry?  No, Paul did it frequently in the epistles.  And He let Timothy know that ministers deserve to be paid for their work.  I think marketing from a Christian world view needs to be focused on informing donors where there money is going and how it is being used.  In the end, its not the ministries money, but the Lord&#8217;s.  1 Corinthians is clear that we should not give out of impulse or guilt, but out of love and thanksgiving to God.  Sure we need to communicate to our audience in appropriate and effective ways, but purposed manipulation should not be a method of fund-raising.  Communicate the effectiveness of the ministry, share the need, and let God do the rest.  Consider the following verses:
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<p><b> 1 Timothy 5:17- 18: </b>&#8220;Elders who do their work well should be paid well, especially those who work hard at both preaching and teaching.  For the Scripture says, &#8220;Do not keep an ox from eating as it treads out the grain.&#8221; And in another place, &#8220;Those who work deserve their pay!&#8221;
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<p><b>2 Corinthians 8:11b-12 </b> &#8220;Give whatever you can according to what you have. If you are really eager to give, it isn&#8217;t important how much you are able to give. God wants you to give what you have, not what you don&#8217;t have.
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<p><b>2 Corinthians 9:7 </b>You must each make up your own mind as to how much you should give. Don&#8217;t give reluctantly or in response to pressure. For God loves the person who gives cheerfully.</p>
<p>mattbob83.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: mattbob83</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/fundraising/#comment-1770</link>
		<dc:creator>mattbob83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; &quot;How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct.&quot; -Benjamin Disraeli &lt;/b&gt;
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Mary, you have my respect.  You&#039;re in the business. Doing the work.  It&#039;s so easy from people on the sidelines to tell how it should be.  Thanks for your challenging comments and for striving to do fundraising in a Christlike way.  Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> &#8220;How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct.&#8221; -Benjamin Disraeli </b></p>
<p>Mary, you have my respect.  You&#8217;re in the business. Doing the work.  It&#8217;s so easy from people on the sidelines to tell how it should be.  Thanks for your challenging comments and for striving to do fundraising in a Christlike way.  Keep it up!</p>
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