Comments on: Why Can't Christians Be More Original? http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/ Change Revolution Fri, 18 May 2012 18:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Effigy http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-26 Effigy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-26 <p>I got very angry when I saw GodTube after YouTube got so succesful....</p> I got very angry when I saw GodTube after YouTube got so succesful….

]]> By: Greg Schremp http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-27 Greg Schremp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-27 <p>I am in. Originality has fallen prey to the need to be relevant for the sake of relevancy; we have pimped out the our legitimacy and uniqueness to reach people for what we think they want in a god...when 'the God' meets them where they are.</p> I am in. Originality has fallen prey to the need to be relevant for the sake of relevancy; we have pimped out the our legitimacy and uniqueness to reach people for what we think they want in a god…when ‘the God’ meets them where they are.

]]> By: Camron Ware http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-28 Camron Ware Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-28 <p>Exactly.  This topic literally makes me angry.  Churches say "We want to be relevant to culture."  SO STOP LOOKING LIKE IT.  I find non-believers not wanting to come into something that looks like what they are in already...We are not of this world, so why is the Church trying to look like it...</p> Exactly.  This topic literally makes me angry.  Churches say “We want to be relevant to culture.”  SO STOP LOOKING LIKE IT.  I find non-believers not wanting to come into something that looks like what they are in already…We are not of this world, so why is the Church trying to look like it…

]]> By: jd http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-29 jd Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-29 <p><span style="font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;"><span style="font-size: small;">Is worship a few songs on Sunday, NOT! Is it giving 10% of the money you have in your pocket, NOT! Is it following every word of the celebrity, er, pastor that is 'hot' at the moment, NOT! Maybe if someone, anyone, actually did worship with their whole life, everyday, their impact would be, well, supernaturally creative...not only creative, but if a word, logo, message is actually, directly from God, then the Holy Spirit will make is so impact the recipients' hearts that they will have to respond. That’s just the truth, like it or not…when He speaks through a person, regardless of the delivery medium…it will not return void to the Creator…without Him we can do nothing, so we just copy the world…</span></span></p> Is worship a few songs on Sunday, NOT! Is it giving 10% of the money you have in your pocket, NOT! Is it following every word of the celebrity, er, pastor that is ‘hot’ at the moment, NOT! Maybe if someone, anyone, actually did worship with their whole life, everyday, their impact would be, well, supernaturally creative…not only creative, but if a word, logo, message is actually, directly from God, then the Holy Spirit will make is so impact the recipients’ hearts that they will have to respond. That’s just the truth, like it or not…when He speaks through a person, regardless of the delivery medium…it will not return void to the Creator…without Him we can do nothing, so we just copy the world…

]]> By: jd http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-30 jd Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-30 <p><span style="font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;"><span style="font-size: small;">Do Christians, Christ Followers, whatever the latest title is REALLY "worship the ultimate creator"...maybe this answers your question! If people REALLY "worship", then why do they lack creativity?? </span></span></p> Do Christians, Christ Followers, whatever the latest title is REALLY “worship the ultimate creator”…maybe this answers your question! If people REALLY “worship”, then why do they lack creativity??

]]> By: Knox Smith http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-31 Knox Smith Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-31 <p>I am totally in.  As an artist I want to create new an innovative material for the Church, but my ideas are constantly being turned town in an effor to copy other churches or to make commercials for church events that really aren't ministry to begin with.  Every day I see that worship pastors and senior pastors comb the internet looking for things to copy for their services.  I hate working on this stuff, and as an artist its insulting me and them to do it.  Its like we are afraid to try something new because we are afraid of failing at it.  I understand the want to be relevant to the culture, but our culture dictates originality, and sadly churches don't stand up.</p> I am totally in.  As an artist I want to create new an innovative material for the Church, but my ideas are constantly being turned town in an effor to copy other churches or to make commercials for church events that really aren’t ministry to begin with.  Every day I see that worship pastors and senior pastors comb the internet looking for things to copy for their services.  I hate working on this stuff, and as an artist its insulting me and them to do it.  Its like we are afraid to try something new because we are afraid of failing at it.  I understand the want to be relevant to the culture, but our culture dictates originality, and sadly churches don’t stand up.

]]> By: jd http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-32 jd Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-32 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">One of my favorite quotes on prayer: “If I fail to spend two hours in prayer each morning, the devil gets the victory through the day. I have so much business, I cannot get on without spending three hours daily in prayer” –MARTIN LUTHER</span></p> One of my favorite quotes on prayer: “If I fail to spend two hours in prayer each morning, the devil gets the victory through the day. I have so much business, I cannot get on without spending three hours daily in prayer” –MARTIN LUTHER

]]> By: Rick http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-33 Rick Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-33 <p>One of the first things I heard/learned when I started working in student ministry many years ago was- "The first rule of youth ministry is-if it's a good idea, steal it!" I can't say that I've seen an original idea since...sadly.</p> One of the first things I heard/learned when I started working in student ministry many years ago was- “The first rule of youth ministry is-if it’s a good idea, steal it!” I can’t say that I’ve seen an original idea since…sadly.

]]> By: Levi Weaver http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-34 Levi Weaver Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-34 <p>Holy Crap I totally agree.</p><p>I was *this* close to kicking over one of these displays, Money-Changer-Table-Style the last time I was in a Love's gas station.</p><p>Faithbook, MySpace ("...IN HEAVEN! WOO!"), Tomy Hellfighter. *slaps forehead*.</p><p>Once I master the art of being more like Christ in a few more relevant ways, maybe I will go back and hone my "Upturning Grotesquely Offensive Things" skills.</p> Holy Crap I totally agree.

I was *this* close to kicking over one of these displays, Money-Changer-Table-Style the last time I was in a Love’s gas station.

Faithbook, MySpace (“…IN HEAVEN! WOO!”), Tomy Hellfighter. *slaps forehead*.

Once I master the art of being more like Christ in a few more relevant ways, maybe I will go back and hone my “Upturning Grotesquely Offensive Things” skills.

]]> By: Ty http://philcooke.com/creative_reformation/#comment-35 Ty Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://philcooke.vintom.com/creative_reformation#comment-35 <p>I couldn't agree more with you Phil (and Jesse). It has always aggravated me to see the church play off popular culture. We have sort of pigeon-holes ourselves into thinking that ripping-off popular culture is effective and makes us relevant. The change needs to start at the top. When church leaders want marketing materials and content that is a knock-off on secular culture it stifles the artists ability to create. Christian artists need an outlet and the freedom to create original work.</p> I couldn’t agree more with you Phil (and Jesse). It has always aggravated me to see the church play off popular culture. We have sort of pigeon-holes ourselves into thinking that ripping-off popular culture is effective and makes us relevant. The change needs to start at the top. When church leaders want marketing materials and content that is a knock-off on secular culture it stifles the artists ability to create. Christian artists need an outlet and the freedom to create original work.

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