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		<title>By: Daniel Hahn</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8551</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re right, Phil. &#160;I&#039;m sick of Christian media being crap. &#160;I&#039;m sick of being ashamed. &#160;If you can&#039;t do it well, find what you can do well!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Phil. &nbsp;I&#8217;m sick of Christian media being crap. &nbsp;I&#8217;m sick of being ashamed. &nbsp;If you can&#8217;t do it well, find what you can do well!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Winkler Burke</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8552</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Winkler Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You are rightly fascinated by asking the question: Why do Christian films have a bad reputation?&#160; Here is my understanding:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the beginning... was a story, the story of creation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Therefore, God our Creator highly esteems a story.&#160; It is HOW God delivers truth:&#160; Through a story.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Therein is your answer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The best example of bad Christian movies would be those that somehow try to promulgate a story that is not backed up with essence of parabolic truth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s a mouthful, so let me explain:&#160; Question: Is rapture a lie?&#160; Answer: Are rapture movies dung?&#160; (Ask that question about any C-movie with suspicious doctrine!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And so, if Christian movies promote wrong doctrine, they cannot but be dung.&#160; Even if the doctrine is widely accepted by the Bible belt!&#160; By the big broadcast ministries.&#160; Etc., etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is God&#039;s mystic way of enabling those with &quot;eyes to see&quot; to confirm they have &quot;eyes to see.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, note that most movies about the life of Jesus... are pretty good.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hm... By the above calculus, this proves the basic story around Jesus&#039; life and death is... true.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But how about another &quot;Taken&quot; movie on rapture?&#160; Well, any way to short that stock?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>You are rightly fascinated by asking the question: Why do Christian films have a bad reputation?&nbsp; Here is my understanding:</p>
<p>In the beginning&#8230; was a story, the story of creation.</p>
<p>Therefore, God our Creator highly esteems a story.&nbsp; It is HOW God delivers truth:&nbsp; Through a story.</p>
<p>Therein is your answer.</p>
<p>The best example of bad Christian movies would be those that somehow try to promulgate a story that is not backed up with essence of parabolic truth.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a mouthful, so let me explain:&nbsp; Question: Is rapture a lie?&nbsp; Answer: Are rapture movies dung?&nbsp; (Ask that question about any C-movie with suspicious doctrine!)</p>
<p>And so, if Christian movies promote wrong doctrine, they cannot but be dung.&nbsp; Even if the doctrine is widely accepted by the Bible belt!&nbsp; By the big broadcast ministries.&nbsp; Etc., etc.</p>
<p>It is God&#8217;s mystic way of enabling those with &#8220;eyes to see&#8221; to confirm they have &#8220;eyes to see.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, note that most movies about the life of Jesus&#8230; are pretty good.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hm&#8230; By the above calculus, this proves the basic story around Jesus&#8217; life and death is&#8230; true.</p>
<p>But how about another &#8220;Taken&#8221; movie on rapture?&nbsp; Well, any way to short that stock?</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8553</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, smart guy, one of your phrases is, &quot;By the above calculus...&quot; I can see you pontificating and saying to yourself in academese language, &quot;Oh, I&#039;m such a smart boy.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let me ask you something, sharpee, do you understand the real Calculus, i.e., the one developed by Liebnitz and Newton? I teach it, by the way, and also understand.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So when you use one of your standard pat liberal phrases which makes you oh feel so smart, those PTA cliches, and ACLU cliches, and leftward Kinsian Education phrases that have left us in so messed up a culture, what is Jesus going to think of you when He sees you ashamed of stories that are unashamed of His Gospel?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, smart guy, one of your phrases is, &#8220;By the above calculus&#8230;&#8221; I can see you pontificating and saying to yourself in academese language, &#8220;Oh, I&#8217;m such a smart boy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me ask you something, sharpee, do you understand the real Calculus, i.e., the one developed by Liebnitz and Newton? I teach it, by the way, and also understand.</p>
<p>So when you use one of your standard pat liberal phrases which makes you oh feel so smart, those PTA cliches, and ACLU cliches, and leftward Kinsian Education phrases that have left us in so messed up a culture, what is Jesus going to think of you when He sees you ashamed of stories that are unashamed of His Gospel?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Winkler Burke</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8554</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Winkler Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dean,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Ye know not what spirit you are of.&quot;&#160; Ever heard that?&#160; Something the Greatest Teacher might have said... check it out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And... had you checked my website, I&#039;m conservative.&#160; Yup, yessereesir.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But you are right.&#160; I don&#039;t know real calculus, but then I never said I did... Did I.&#160; Nope.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I borrowed the phrase from following Victor Davis Hanson, a conservative teacher of the history of war.&#160; His website is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.victorhanson.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.victorhanson.com&lt;/a&gt;.&#160; By studying it you might learn critical thinking.&#160; I know Hanson has helped me.&#160; And Lord knows, we all need help, right?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I apologize for making an original post that was not clear to you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>&#8220;Ye know not what spirit you are of.&#8221;&nbsp; Ever heard that?&nbsp; Something the Greatest Teacher might have said&#8230; check it out.</p>
<p>And&#8230; had you checked my website, I&#8217;m conservative.&nbsp; Yup, yessereesir.</p>
<p>But you are right.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t know real calculus, but then I never said I did&#8230; Did I.&nbsp; Nope.</p>
<p>I borrowed the phrase from following Victor Davis Hanson, a conservative teacher of the history of war.&nbsp; His website is <a href="http://www.victorhanson.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.victorhanson.com</a>.&nbsp; By studying it you might learn critical thinking.&nbsp; I know Hanson has helped me.&nbsp; And Lord knows, we all need help, right?</p>
<p>I apologize for making an original post that was not clear to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Winkler Burke</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8555</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Winkler Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dean,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s my point:&#160; Right now, Walmart is selling the 60th anniversay edition of The Wizard of Oz.&#160; We still buy and watch a film made in 1939, for Christ&#039;s sake (pun intended.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why?&#160; The parabolic story above the movie is this:&#160; Behold, Christ comes quickly... NOW!&#160; Not, I repeat, in the rapture... or in some future time, even over the rainbow... right?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Heaven can come, and the God-head can manifest in us... if we have the right doctrines enabling us to be wise, tender-hearted and brave... IOW in God NOW!&#160; (Not later!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We see&#160;John 14:20 all over the movie.&#160; The scarecrow thinks he doesn&#039;t have a brain, but he is the one with the plan to get into the witch&#039;s castle.&#160; He is the one with the poignant observations.&#160; Likewise, the Tin Man thinks he doesn&#039;t have a heart, but he tears up all the time with love, compassion and concern for others.&#160; The Lion thinks he isn&#039;t brave, but he does more than vote present.&#160; Dorothy wants to go home (i.e. find herself) but in getting lost in the Oz adventure, she discovers who she is... a precocious, lovely Miss who helps her companions in life and sticks up ferociously for them... even her dog, Toto.&#160; She is the antipode to the anti-christ Wicked Witch and her parallel on earth: the bitchy neighbor lady.&#160; Dorothy is, in fact: wise, heart-felt and brave... and brings these manifestations OUT into the NOW in her three companions.&#160; The wizard knows this, and helps them manifest this... that they might teach and run Oz this messge... later.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thus, rapture, I maintain is one of the BIGGEST LIES of broadcast ministry.&#160; No rapture movie is beloved over time, because its story message is simply a lie.&#160; It refutes John 14:20, and when you refute the gospel... the story cannot sustain popularity over time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my point:&nbsp; Right now, Walmart is selling the 60th anniversay edition of The Wizard of Oz.&nbsp; We still buy and watch a film made in 1939, for Christ&#8217;s sake (pun intended.)</p>
<p>Why?&nbsp; The parabolic story above the movie is this:&nbsp; Behold, Christ comes quickly&#8230; NOW!&nbsp; Not, I repeat, in the rapture&#8230; or in some future time, even over the rainbow&#8230; right?</p>
<p>Heaven can come, and the God-head can manifest in us&#8230; if we have the right doctrines enabling us to be wise, tender-hearted and brave&#8230; IOW in God NOW!&nbsp; (Not later!)</p>
<p>We see&nbsp;John 14:20 all over the movie.&nbsp; The scarecrow thinks he doesn&#8217;t have a brain, but he is the one with the plan to get into the witch&#8217;s castle.&nbsp; He is the one with the poignant observations.&nbsp; Likewise, the Tin Man thinks he doesn&#8217;t have a heart, but he tears up all the time with love, compassion and concern for others.&nbsp; The Lion thinks he isn&#8217;t brave, but he does more than vote present.&nbsp; Dorothy wants to go home (i.e. find herself) but in getting lost in the Oz adventure, she discovers who she is&#8230; a precocious, lovely Miss who helps her companions in life and sticks up ferociously for them&#8230; even her dog, Toto.&nbsp; She is the antipode to the anti-christ Wicked Witch and her parallel on earth: the bitchy neighbor lady.&nbsp; Dorothy is, in fact: wise, heart-felt and brave&#8230; and brings these manifestations OUT into the NOW in her three companions.&nbsp; The wizard knows this, and helps them manifest this&#8230; that they might teach and run Oz this messge&#8230; later.</p>
<p>Thus, rapture, I maintain is one of the BIGGEST LIES of broadcast ministry.&nbsp; No rapture movie is beloved over time, because its story message is simply a lie.&nbsp; It refutes John 14:20, and when you refute the gospel&#8230; the story cannot sustain popularity over time.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Dillon</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8556</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Wizard of Oz is a wonderful movie, I agree, with loads of interesting moral/spiritual food for thought.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, just because rapture movies are crap (so far), doesn&#039;t mean that the rapture&#160;won&#039;t happen. There&#160;aren&#039;t decent&#160;versions of other excellent Bible stories (The Apostle Paul, David and Esther for instance have all been badly adapted). Does that mean they aren&#039;t true?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By the way, check out TV series&#160;Flashforward, which has a rapture-esque premise and is done fairly well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wizard of Oz is a wonderful movie, I agree, with loads of interesting moral/spiritual food for thought.</p>
<p>However, just because rapture movies are crap (so far), doesn&#8217;t mean that the rapture&nbsp;won&#8217;t happen. There&nbsp;aren&#8217;t decent&nbsp;versions of other excellent Bible stories (The Apostle Paul, David and Esther for instance have all been badly adapted). Does that mean they aren&#8217;t true?</p>
<p>By the way, check out TV series&nbsp;Flashforward, which has a rapture-esque premise and is done fairly well.</p>
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		<title>By: David Abbott</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8557</link>
		<dc:creator>David Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At NTM Communications, we have also observed this unfortunate truth about Christian films.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you have 10 min. we would value your honest opinion of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PfNCemTs-k&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PfNCemTs-k&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At NTM Communications, we have also observed this unfortunate truth about Christian films.</p>
<p>If you have 10 min. we would value your honest opinion of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PfNCemTs-k" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PfNCemTs-k</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angie DeBlieux</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8558</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie DeBlieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What if we were to live in the present and get God&#039;s revelations for us in the present and tell people what is happening in the present time in their lives instead of projecting the future that hasn&#039;t come yet?&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if we were to live in the present and get God&#8217;s revelations for us in the present and tell people what is happening in the present time in their lives instead of projecting the future that hasn&#8217;t come yet?&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Krol</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8559</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Krol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m with Angie!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What&#039;s this obsession w/ the rapture?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Great stories by today&#039;s christians are being lived out&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;right now! Drama, comedy, doc., etc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By the way, if you have one, let me know.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Former filmmaker, looking to get back into it,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and tell a great story, visually!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-Ken&#160;&#160; &#160; &#160;&#160; kitchken@gmail.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Angie!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s this obsession w/ the rapture?</p>
<p>Great stories by today&#8217;s christians are being lived out</p>
<p>right now! Drama, comedy, doc., etc.</p>
<p>By the way, if you have one, let me know.</p>
<p>Former filmmaker, looking to get back into it,</p>
<p>and tell a great story, visually!</p>
<p>-Ken&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="mailto:kitchken@gmail.com">kitchken@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/Are_Christian_movies_crap/#comment-8560</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know what we used to say in SF litfandom some 20 years ago?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;It&#039;s gotta be Christian -- look how shoddy it is!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;It&#039;s gotta be good -- all the Christians are denouncing it!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what we used to say in SF litfandom some 20 years ago?</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s gotta be Christian &#8212; look how shoddy it is!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s gotta be good &#8212; all the Christians are denouncing it!&#8221;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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