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		<title>By: Paul A Rose Jr</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8731</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul A Rose Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The sad thing with the Last Temptation boycott is it added publicity and drove people to see the film, which, if you&#039;ve ever seen it, is horribly boring storytelling.&#160; If Christians had just ignored it, it would have disappeared into the ether pretty quickly.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not to mention, the premise of the film was not all that controversial.&#160; It appears that some Christians felt that Jesus was too human and could not have resisted, equating Christ being tempted with Christ sinning.&#160; The two are not the same thing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing with the Last Temptation boycott is it added publicity and drove people to see the film, which, if you&#8217;ve ever seen it, is horribly boring storytelling.&nbsp; If Christians had just ignored it, it would have disappeared into the ether pretty quickly.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Not to mention, the premise of the film was not all that controversial.&nbsp; It appears that some Christians felt that Jesus was too human and could not have resisted, equating Christ being tempted with Christ sinning.&nbsp; The two are not the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh J</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8732</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Right on Phil.&#160; Their boycott&#160;makes me want to shop at the Gap this season and wish the store clerks I come into contact with a &quot;Merry Christmas&quot;.&#160; If we would just all say Merry Christmas, that would get the message get the message out more than a boycott.&#160; If you still choose to write the Gap, what would be better is to explain in a kind rational manner&#160; as to why Merry Christmas is not offensive rather than just boycotting the company.&#160;&#160; The fact is that over 90 percent of this country celebrates Christmas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, some of the greatest Christmas standards were written by Jewish composers:&#160; &quot;Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer&quot;, &quot;Rockin&#039; Around the Christmas Tree&quot; composed by Johnny Marks, &quot;White Christmas&quot; composed&#160;by Irving Berlin and the awesome instrumental version of &quot;Sleigh Ride&quot; conducted by Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops Orchestra.&#160; Finally, the tune for &quot;Hark the Herald Angels Sing&quot; was composed by Felix Mendelssohn.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on Phil.&nbsp; Their boycott&nbsp;makes me want to shop at the Gap this season and wish the store clerks I come into contact with a &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221;.&nbsp; If we would just all say Merry Christmas, that would get the message get the message out more than a boycott.&nbsp; If you still choose to write the Gap, what would be better is to explain in a kind rational manner&nbsp; as to why Merry Christmas is not offensive rather than just boycotting the company.&nbsp;&nbsp; The fact is that over 90 percent of this country celebrates Christmas.</p>
<p>Also, some of the greatest Christmas standards were written by Jewish composers:&nbsp; &#8220;Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer&#8221;, &#8220;Rockin&#8217; Around the Christmas Tree&#8221; composed by Johnny Marks, &#8220;White Christmas&#8221; composed&nbsp;by Irving Berlin and the awesome instrumental version of &#8220;Sleigh Ride&#8221; conducted by Arthur Fiedler and the Boston Pops Orchestra.&nbsp; Finally, the tune for &#8220;Hark the Herald Angels Sing&#8221; was composed by Felix Mendelssohn.</p>
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		<title>By: tlee</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8733</link>
		<dc:creator>tlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, in Christian circles we do have battles in our culture.&#160; The key is to pick our battles wisely.&#160; I feel that that the term &quot;Christmas&quot; not only embraces the second most cherished holiday of our faith (for those who don&#039;t know the first is Easter and no gifts are actually involved - if you don&#039;t count the Easter Bunny) but also the best of our American culture.&#160;&#160;The term &quot;Christmas&quot; more than any other term sends most&#160;Americans into the&#160;warm and&#160;fuzzies.&#160; Culturally, it sets off the pictures of family, goodwill, charity, love and lots and lots of presents, regardless of how seriously the person is about thier religion.&#160; If a marketer doesn&#039;t want&#160;cash in on that there just plain stupid.&#160; Someone needs to let them in on a secret - Santa doesn&#039;t come on &quot;Holiday&quot; he comes on &quot;Christmas.&quot;&#160; That&#039;s not religious&#160;- that&#039;s a fact (thank you Virginia).&#160; If they want to coddle to a small group of people who may be offended by a word that has encompassed the best that our culture has to offer then that is there perogative.&#160; So, in the battles of our culture - the boycott on the gap is about as relevant as the gap itself.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, in Christian circles we do have battles in our culture.&nbsp; The key is to pick our battles wisely.&nbsp; I feel that that the term &#8220;Christmas&#8221; not only embraces the second most cherished holiday of our faith (for those who don&#8217;t know the first is Easter and no gifts are actually involved &#8211; if you don&#8217;t count the Easter Bunny) but also the best of our American culture.&nbsp;&nbsp;The term &#8220;Christmas&#8221; more than any other term sends most&nbsp;Americans into the&nbsp;warm and&nbsp;fuzzies.&nbsp; Culturally, it sets off the pictures of family, goodwill, charity, love and lots and lots of presents, regardless of how seriously the person is about thier religion.&nbsp; If a marketer doesn&#8217;t want&nbsp;cash in on that there just plain stupid.&nbsp; Someone needs to let them in on a secret &#8211; Santa doesn&#8217;t come on &#8220;Holiday&#8221; he comes on &#8220;Christmas.&#8221;&nbsp; That&#8217;s not religious&nbsp;- that&#8217;s a fact (thank you Virginia).&nbsp; If they want to coddle to a small group of people who may be offended by a word that has encompassed the best that our culture has to offer then that is there perogative.&nbsp; So, in the battles of our culture &#8211; the boycott on the gap is about as relevant as the gap itself.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8734</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m&#160;searching my Bible for&#160;the times when Jesus took the approach of &quot;punishing&quot; those who didn&#039;t do things his way. Still searching...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m&nbsp;searching my Bible for&nbsp;the times when Jesus took the approach of &#8220;punishing&#8221; those who didn&#8217;t do things his way. Still searching&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Applegate</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8735</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Applegate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A boycott should be reserved for businesses that are actually producing things that are hostile to Christian values, not&#160;a silly issue like whether of not the business recognizes Christmas in its advertising. Do they recognize Ramadan? Chanukah? Mao&#039;s birthday?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do we want Christmas associated with the Gap? with commerce in general? When a business sends me a Christmas card, and a corporation wishes me a Merry Christmas, what does it really mean? I not sure it wouldn&#039;t be a good example of taking the Lord&#039;s name in vain. Wouldn&#039;t it? Isn&#039;t it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This boycott is another example of the tortured, inward vision of so many Christian organizations: let&#039;s do something to make ourselves feel better about us, and find an external&#160;scape-goat for our own failure to make our ideas and values convincing and attractive to society. It just reinforces the popular image of Christians being&#160;people who are against everything and opposed to everyone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Gap is not our biggest problem. Personally, I keep trying to boycott See&#039;s Chocolates, but... well, the spirit is willing...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A boycott should be reserved for businesses that are actually producing things that are hostile to Christian values, not&nbsp;a silly issue like whether of not the business recognizes Christmas in its advertising. Do they recognize Ramadan? Chanukah? Mao&#8217;s birthday?</p>
<p>Do we want Christmas associated with the Gap? with commerce in general? When a business sends me a Christmas card, and a corporation wishes me a Merry Christmas, what does it really mean? I not sure it wouldn&#8217;t be a good example of taking the Lord&#8217;s name in vain. Wouldn&#8217;t it? Isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>This boycott is another example of the tortured, inward vision of so many Christian organizations: let&#8217;s do something to make ourselves feel better about us, and find an external&nbsp;scape-goat for our own failure to make our ideas and values convincing and attractive to society. It just reinforces the popular image of Christians being&nbsp;people who are against everything and opposed to everyone.</p>
<p>The Gap is not our biggest problem. Personally, I keep trying to boycott See&#8217;s Chocolates, but&#8230; well, the spirit is willing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8736</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Times; font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;color: #000000; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10px; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: #ffffff; background-position: initial initial; margin: 8px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;My thoughts are simple. While AFA is trying to &quot;make a difference&quot;, christians are once again labeled as the people who are against everything and support nothing. Wonder what Jesus would of done if he had to boycott everything He didn&#039;t &quot;agree with&quot;? Ministry would be non-existent. We have all read the scriptures enough to know that Jesus didn&#039;t run from confrontation...He ran to it. He walked with heathens, and talked with sinners. We have enough things in this culture that does require a stand based on beliefs...I don&#039;t see why we should try to make up another one that &quot;might fit the mold&quot;. There is no better time than Christmas to witness and share Christ. People are open beyond their natural routine of structure. I think AFA just needed another thing to boycott due to their lack of true impact on society. Empty wagons always make the loudest noise.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>My thoughts are simple. While AFA is trying to &#8220;make a difference&#8221;, christians are once again labeled as the people who are against everything and support nothing. Wonder what Jesus would of done if he had to boycott everything He didn&#8217;t &#8220;agree with&#8221;? Ministry would be non-existent. We have all read the scriptures enough to know that Jesus didn&#8217;t run from confrontation&#8230;He ran to it. He walked with heathens, and talked with sinners. We have enough things in this culture that does require a stand based on beliefs&#8230;I don&#8217;t see why we should try to make up another one that &#8220;might fit the mold&#8221;. There is no better time than Christmas to witness and share Christ. People are open beyond their natural routine of structure. I think AFA just needed another thing to boycott due to their lack of true impact on society. Empty wagons always make the loudest noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Hutchinson</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8737</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Hutchinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Walmart put Christmas back in their marketing because it made them more money. &#160;But they had to figure it out themselves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gap is going to do what makes them more money, and AFA knows that. &#160;This is fund raising. &#160;Nothing more, nothing less.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walmart put Christmas back in their marketing because it made them more money. &nbsp;But they had to figure it out themselves.</p>
<p>Gap is going to do what makes them more money, and AFA knows that. &nbsp;This is fund raising. &nbsp;Nothing more, nothing less.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8738</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phil,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah, it&#039;s a complicated thing. On one hand, it&#039;s great that someone is making an effort out there and expending their own energy and resources with the intent&#160;to defend Christ. In a vacuum, that&#039;s a noble thing. However, I think it&#039;s along the lines of Christians getting ticked at unbelievers for acting like...well...unbelievers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Gap and it&#039;s related companies are for-profit businesses and were not created with a Christian, evangelical end-game&#160;in mind. It&#039;s like when large groups do the latest ban on the Disney parks, here in Florida. It&#039;s kookoo talk. It doesn&#039;t net anything for the kingdom of God, and folks&#160;from churches still go to the mouse house. It does, however, serve to harden sceptics of the faith&#160;from hearing about how Christ can turn them into a more loving individual - which of course, should be a part of sanctification.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To quote from a non-believer - Woody Allen - in one of his older movies, his character has subconsciously created&#160;an imaginary&#160;character to help him cope with&#160;his life and the deep, existential issues facing him. At one point, Woody tells his imaginary character that he feels like he isn&#039;t doing anything meaningful with his life as a filmmaker and that maybe he should become a missionary or something (he actually says &quot;missionary&quot;). The imaginary character retorts with the following: &quot;Ehhh...you&#039;re not really the missionary type. You want to make the world a better place? Tell better jokes.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What I glean from Woody here is that instead of attempting to do something grandiose like halt all profits for Gap via a para-faith organized ban during Christmas, to doing something relational like telling jokes to your co-worker&#160;and just being a genuine, caring&#160;person who is flawed but driven by the Holy Spirit to share the truth of Jesus with our neighbors, co-workers, etc. Whatsay we ban apathy and a lack of sharing our faith with those around us and then when we&#039;ve accomplished that, we can talk about banning Walmart or maybe Red Bull...?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a complicated thing. On one hand, it&#8217;s great that someone is making an effort out there and expending their own energy and resources with the intent&nbsp;to defend Christ. In a vacuum, that&#8217;s a noble thing. However, I think it&#8217;s along the lines of Christians getting ticked at unbelievers for acting like&#8230;well&#8230;unbelievers.</p>
<p>The Gap and it&#8217;s related companies are for-profit businesses and were not created with a Christian, evangelical end-game&nbsp;in mind. It&#8217;s like when large groups do the latest ban on the Disney parks, here in Florida. It&#8217;s kookoo talk. It doesn&#8217;t net anything for the kingdom of God, and folks&nbsp;from churches still go to the mouse house. It does, however, serve to harden sceptics of the faith&nbsp;from hearing about how Christ can turn them into a more loving individual &#8211; which of course, should be a part of sanctification.</p>
<p>To quote from a non-believer &#8211; Woody Allen &#8211; in one of his older movies, his character has subconsciously created&nbsp;an imaginary&nbsp;character to help him cope with&nbsp;his life and the deep, existential issues facing him. At one point, Woody tells his imaginary character that he feels like he isn&#8217;t doing anything meaningful with his life as a filmmaker and that maybe he should become a missionary or something (he actually says &#8220;missionary&#8221;). The imaginary character retorts with the following: &#8220;Ehhh&#8230;you&#8217;re not really the missionary type. You want to make the world a better place? Tell better jokes.&#8221;</p>
<p>What I glean from Woody here is that instead of attempting to do something grandiose like halt all profits for Gap via a para-faith organized ban during Christmas, to doing something relational like telling jokes to your co-worker&nbsp;and just being a genuine, caring&nbsp;person who is flawed but driven by the Holy Spirit to share the truth of Jesus with our neighbors, co-workers, etc. Whatsay we ban apathy and a lack of sharing our faith with those around us and then when we&#8217;ve accomplished that, we can talk about banning Walmart or maybe Red Bull&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8739</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are these AFA people crazy?&#160; &quot;Gap&quot; rolls out the Red campain raising massive amounts of money for the worlds poor, and we want to disown a company because they don&#039;t use the word &quot;Christmas.&quot;&#160; Is our Faith/Message so weak that it depends on commerical companies to raise the God question in the public space? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why does it take a negative action to bring about our positive message about Jesus?&#160; Heres another way - for example, Focus on the Family buying the lastest 3 D UltraSound machines and donating these to family planning centers as a way to reduce abortions.&#160; If the mother sees the baby, she&#039;s less likely to go ahead. Never thought I would be bragging on Focus on the Family, but they&#039;re doing good work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry, but this report got me wound up.&#160; Take this idea/thought to the end and:&#160; We should only buy from people/companies who sign up to the apostles creed&#160; - look out, turn off the cable tv because it also has porn on it.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are these AFA people crazy?&nbsp; &#8220;Gap&#8221; rolls out the Red campain raising massive amounts of money for the worlds poor, and we want to disown a company because they don&#8217;t use the word &#8220;Christmas.&#8221;&nbsp; Is our Faith/Message so weak that it depends on commerical companies to raise the God question in the public space? </p>
<p>Why does it take a negative action to bring about our positive message about Jesus?&nbsp; Heres another way &#8211; for example, Focus on the Family buying the lastest 3 D UltraSound machines and donating these to family planning centers as a way to reduce abortions.&nbsp; If the mother sees the baby, she&#8217;s less likely to go ahead. Never thought I would be bragging on Focus on the Family, but they&#8217;re doing good work.</p>
<p>Sorry, but this report got me wound up.&nbsp; Take this idea/thought to the end and:&nbsp; We should only buy from people/companies who sign up to the apostles creed&nbsp; &#8211; look out, turn off the cable tv because it also has porn on it.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Truett</title>
		<link>http://philcooke.com/AFA_versus_GAP/#comment-8740</link>
		<dc:creator>Truett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You missed one point Phil - missionaries also learn to speak the language of the tribe they wish to convert. We&#039;ve got to learn to speak the language of our ever changing culture. The AFA hasn&#039;t got a clue.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed one point Phil &#8211; missionaries also learn to speak the language of the tribe they wish to convert. We&#8217;ve got to learn to speak the language of our ever changing culture. The AFA hasn&#8217;t got a clue.</p>
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